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por afonsinho » 24/1/2007 20:52

Ainda estou crente que o Gore se candidate... tem um percurso politico ímpar, foi literalmente feito para o cargo. GORE PARA PRESIDENTE!!! Obama/Clinton para vice. Ainda não percebo a euforia à volta do Obama, embora ele seja muito "cool" em termos de conversa, mas pronto...


Para quando um preto no parlamento português?Falamos do preconceito dos outros e o nosso? Existe um arabe no congresso americano...



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Não concordo com os que dizem que afirmar que alguem é preto seja preconceituoso. Acho exactamente o contrário, acho preconceituoso quando não se sentem à vontade ao da cor da pele.
Sou português e podem-me chamar isso á vontade sem serem xenéfobos, sou homen, também me podem chamar isso à vontade sem serem sexistas, sou branco e também tão á vontade e não vos considero racistas por isso. Se disserem que sou alto, magro, palido ou moreno, ninguem sequer pensa duas vezes em isso ser ofensivo, portanto também não deveria haver problemas em afirmar que alguem é preto. Somos todos diferentes... não ha nenhum problemas nisso.O "politically correct" é muitas vezes mais preconceituoso do que afirmações inocentes de características que existem...
 
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por Keyser Soze » 24/1/2007 19:40

outro possivel candidato:


A Powerful Response
Jim Webb tore up his party's playbook-- and helped point the Democrats in a new direction.

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By Jonathan Alter
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Updated: 11:37 p.m. ET Jan. 23, 2007

Jan. 21, 2007 - Something unprecedented happened tonight, beyond the doorkeeper announcing, "Madame Speaker." For the first time ever, the response to the State of the Union Message overshadowed the president's big speech. Virginia Sen. James Webb, in office only three weeks, managed to convey a muscular liberalism—with personal touches—that left President Bush's ordinary address in the dust. In the past, the Democratic response has been anemic—remember Washington Gov. Gary Locke? This time it pointed the way to a revival for national Democrats.

Webb is seen as a moderate or even conservative Democrat, but this was a populist speech that quoted Andrew Jackson, founder of the Democratic Party and champion of the common man. The speech represented a return to the tough-minded liberalism of Scoop Jackson and Hubert Humphrey, but by quoting Republicans Teddy Roosevelt (on "improper corporate influence") and Dwight D. Eisenhower (on ending the Korean War), he reinforced the argument that President Bush had taken the GOP away from its roots.

Webb was given a speech to read by the Democratic leadership. He threw it out and wrote his own. As a well-regarded novelist, Webb has a sense of narrative and human drama. He apparently felt that the boots his son wore in Iraq, which he used to great effect during his successful Senate campaign against Sen. George Allen, might be a bit hokey. So instead, he showed a picture of his father during the Berlin airlift. He then went on to describe taking the picture to bed every night and his family's long record of military service.

As a highly decorated veteran of Vietnam and the Reagan administration (where he served as Navy secretary), Webb is the perfect instrument for rescuing Democrats from the image of wimpy, weak-kneed wussies that has so hampered them in recent national elections. The contrast with Bush and Vice President Cheney—both of whom avoided going to Vietnam—could not have been starker. Webb did not have "other priorities" (Cheney) or a cushy billet defending Texas from Mexico (Bush). But unlike fellow veteran John Kerry, he has a military bearing and nonelitist tone that is appealing.

Could this help land Webb on the 2008 ticket? Maybe, though he was a stiff and unsmiling candidate in Virginia and he's been married three times. The problem with the populist theme is that Democrats have no real remedies for the effects of globalization on the middle class. And they are not yet entirely clear on what should be done in Iraq. But at a minimum, Jim Webb offered a timely reminder that great political parties can recover if they strike the right tone.

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por Dwer » 22/1/2007 18:29

Keyser Soze Escreveu:By 2008, voters will have lived for two decades with either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House, and polls — including TIME's — show they are growing uncomfortable with the idea of American dynasties.


Um ponto a favor do Obama. Quanto a ser um ticket ganhador Hillary+Obama... não me parece. Não o facto de ser provavelmente ganhador se acontecesse. Penso é que nenhum deles estaria disposto a ser vice do outro.
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por Keyser Soze » 22/1/2007 15:10

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Hillary's Run: The Obstacles She Faces

Saturday, Jan. 20, 2007
By KAREN TUMULTY

Hillary Clinton's announcement that she is forming a presidential exploratory committee is the least surprising news of the 2008 campaign cycle so far. Her 2006 Senate re-election campaign, which she won by 30 points, was a test run, in which she built the fundraising machinery and other infrastructure for a national bid. But the dynamic of the race is very different than it was even six or eight months ago, and the challenges she faces have shifted. That shows in the early polls in Iowa and New Hampshire, which are far tighter than anyone might have expected.

Clinton enters the race the presumed frontrunner. But where it once was assumed she would be vulnerable from the right in a Democratic primary, it now appears that her support for the Iraq invasion will require her to worry more about her left flank. Where the greatest question she expected to face was about whether a figure as polarizing as she is could possibly be electable, it could now be whether she is polarizing enough to appeal to primary voters who are looking to express their own anger. Even the excitement factor — the prospect of being the first woman President — has been blunted by the fact that her leading challenger, Barack Obama, could be the first African-American one. What's more, Clinton is hardly a fresh face. By 2008, voters will have lived for two decades with either a Clinton or a Bush in the White House, and polls — including TIME's — show they are growing uncomfortable with the idea of American dynasties.

Still, she enters the race with two assets no other contender can match at this early point: near universal name identification and the best money-raising operation imaginable. Her style on the stump is often dull and cautious, but the flip side of that is she rarely makes mistakes. Nothing beats having actually done it before, and she has had the experience of having lived through two successful presidential campaigns.

And then there's Bill, who will be both blessing and baggage. One of the most interesting things will be watching how her campaign deals with a former President in the role of campaign spouse. If he stands next to her on stage, he overpowers her. If he campaigns alone on her behalf — the traditional "surrogate" role in which many spouses are most effective — it will likely appear that he is running for what is essentially his own third term. And if he stays out of sight? Voters start wondering again just what exactly is the deal with their marriage.

Ultimately, however, the question is whether voters' views of Hillary Clinton are so set that they cannot give her a second look. Can she win in November 2008? Her strategists point out that all she would have to do is pick up every state that John Kerry did, plus one. But getting the nomination looks far more complicated than it once did.

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por Pata-Hari » 18/1/2007 20:38

President Schwarzenegger -- a potential blockbuster
POSTED: 1447 GMT (2247 HKT), January 18, 2007
By Bill Schneider
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WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Schwarzenegger -- how does that sound?

Some people think it sounds pretty good. But don't we have enough people running for president next year?

According to CNN's tabulation, four Democrats are already running. One is exploring. Seven others are thinking about it. The Republican list is even longer. Eight Republicans are exploring. Six are thinking. That makes 26 potential candidates.

The editors of The Los Angeles Times think there's room for one more.

"Why should Californians have their governor sidelined from the race?'' the L.A. Times asked in a January 14 editorial. "And why can't voters across the country be entrusted to decide for themselves whether the governor of California is sufficiently 'American' to earn their vote? It's insulting really.''

The reason is Article II of the United States Constitution which reads, "No person except a natural-born citizen . . . shall be eligible to the Office of President.''

It's in there because John Jay, the presiding officer of the Constitutional Convention, wrote a letter to George Washington in 1787 arguing that the commander-in-chief of the United States Army should not be anyone but a natural-born American. The Founders were worried about ambitious foreigners taking over the country; as in Poland, which -- at the time -- had just been partitioned between Austria, Prussia and Russia.

That's not exactly a problem for the United States today. Yet the provision remains in the Constitution, barring naturalized citizens like Henry Kissinger and Madeleine Albright from ever becoming President.

And Austrian-born Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Amending the Constitution to drop the provision has been proposed before.

In the 1993 movie, "Demolition Man,'' about a police officer who was cryogenically frozen and thawed out in 2032, it was a joke.

"Stop! He was president?" asked the incredulous officer, played by Sylvester Stallone, was when his lieutentant, played by Sandra Bullock, told him to go to the Schwarezenegger Library to gather evidence.

"Yes," the leutenient replied. "Even though he was not born in this country, his popularity at the time caused the 61st amendment, which states that even . . . ''

"I don't want to know,'' the officer interrupted. "President?''

But the L.A. Times canvassed California's congressional delegation to find out how many would support a Constitutional amendment allowing naturalized citizens to become President. Six out of eight Republicans who responded said "yes." Democrats were more closely split -- 9 yes, 7 no.

Though politics is always partisan, this year, Gov. Schwarzenegger is reaching across party lines. In his January 9 State of the State address, Schwarzenegger promised to work with the Democratic speaker of the assembly, Fabian Nuñez, and laid out a bold, ambitious agenda to deal with problems that tie the federal government in knots.

The governor also said California would take the lead on issues like the environment and health care where he said the federal government has failed to act. Schwarzenegger already signed an anti-global warming pact with the United Kingdom whiched committed California and the UK to jointly study emissions trading practices and "clean energy" technologies.

And earlier this month Schwarzenegger announced a plan to provide universal health care for Californians.

Anything for his fellow Republicans? You bet. Schwarzenegger said he will do it all without raising taxes.

This move to the center has paid off for Schwarzenegger politically, putting him in a much better position than the former governor who now occupies the White House. Fifty-seven percent of Californians approve of the way Governor Schwarzenegger is handling his job. Only 26 percent of Californians approve of the way President Bush is doing his job.

President Bush's job rating among California Democrats and Independents is in single digits.

Most California Republicans disapprove of Mr. Bush, but everybody likes Arnold. Even Democrats approve of his job as governor.

It's easy to see why there is such a disparity. On Schwarzenegger's desk: global warming, stem cell research, health insurance. On Bush's desk: Iraq burning.

If the Constitution says Schwarzenegger can't be president of the United States, he'll just have to be be president of California.

Monday night, Gov. Schwarzenegger presented the Golden Globe award for best dramatic picture to "Babel". Now if he could just get somebody to rewrite his own script . . . the part about where he was born.
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por vasco » 17/1/2007 11:27

bem, mais uma colherada :) :
mesmo que entre realmente na corrida, não esqueçam que os EUA não são (só) washington, Nova Iorque, Los Angeles, boston, Miami, Chicago, etc etc, mas sim todo o grande interior pronvinciano que votou Bush desta segunda vez quando toda a gente achava que ele ia perder pela porcaria que andava a fazer. E assim foi, mas só nas grandes cidades, porque lá naqueles sitios do "fim do mundo"...e ao lado, ele ganhou.
O que acontecerá desta vez, logo se verá.

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por amsf » 17/1/2007 11:15

Afro-Americano, com nome árabe, protestante envergonhado!

Nos EUA tem poucas hipóteses na corrida à casa branca...especialmente com eleitores preconceituosos e oponentes que sabem usar todos os truques sujos...
 
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por mcarvalho » 17/1/2007 11:06

Realmente

qualquer dia perde o interesse

E´o caldeirão, são as pataniscas, é o espanador..


estar aqui ou estar na cozinha é... a mesma coisa

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por Keyser Soze » 17/1/2007 10:13

Make no mistake: He's running

All but launching a presidential run, Barack Obama has added serious star power to the 2008 race -- and made history.

By Walter Shapiro

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Jan. 17, 2007 | WASHINGTON -- Whatever happens during the demolition derby that will be the 2008 presidential race, the newly released three-minute video featuring a would-be candidate with a long face, dressed in an open-neck blue shirt and dark jacket, will endure as a political artifact.

While the timing of the announcement came days earlier than political insiders expected, nothing that Barack Obama said was particularly striking as he announced on his political Web site that he was formally launching an exploratory committee for a presidential run. For decades White House aspirants have attacked the political climate of Washington much as Obama did: "Politics has become so bitter and partisan, so gummed up by money and influence, that we can't tackle the big problems that demand solutions."

What is history-making is the life story of the handsome 45-year-old man facing the camera. Little more than two years removed from the Illinois state Senate, Obama -- the Hawaii-born and Ivy League-educated son of a Kenyan economist -- is the first African-American ever to embark on a serious quest for the White House. Unlike Colin Powell, who bobbed near the top of the polls in 1995 before bowing out of the Republican presidential race, Obama has the confidence to act on his ambitions rather than becoming sidelined by indecisiveness. Unlike Jesse Jackson with his epochal primary and caucus victories in the 1980s, Obama is not a protest candidate dissed and dismissed by party insiders, but a mainstream contender with a plausible route to the nomination and the White House.

It was not supposed to happen for Obama this year, despite his dazzling keynote address to the 2004 Democratic convention. The real 2008 buzz began in mid-September when Obama was the headliner at Sen. Tom Harkin's steak fry, the biggest event on this year's Iowa Democratic calendar. Harkin was not trying to create a presidential boomlet, so much as to maintain his own neutrality in a 2008 field that included Hillary Clinton, John Edwards and outgoing Iowa Gov. Tom Vilsack. Then, last month, Obama set an unofficial statewide pre-primary record when 1,600 New Hampshire Democrats paid $25 each to hear him speak at a post-election-party victory rally. Rarely has a fledgling presidential candidate entered the fray propelled by such stirring auditions in the first caucus and primary states.

Make no mistake, Obama's online announcement Tuesday was an unabashed declaration of candidacy. Technically, he promised a Hillary-style "listening and learning" tour and vowed that "on Feb. 10, at the end of these decisions and in my home state of Illinois, I'll share my plans with my friends, neighbors and fellow Americans."

What necessitates this delay is not a last flicker of uncertainty, but logistics. David Plouffe (a strategist for Dick Gephardt in 2004), who is expected to run the campaign, and media advisor David Axelrod (who worked for John Edwards in 2004 and the late Illinois Sen. Paul Simon in his 1988 White House bid) have prior experience in presidential races. But the Obama campaign, with virtually no money in the bank, is still more a beguiling idea than a tangible operation. But unless the polls, the crowds, the book sales and the public enthusiasm are all a mirage, money will not be a problem for Obama, who has the potential to raise $50 million or more. Meanwhile, orchestrating every detail of Obama's Feb. 10 presidential kickoff -- so that it will look natural and spontaneous -- will require the nearly four weeks of planning.

The obvious comparisons will be made between Obama and John Kennedy, 43 when elected, and Bill Clinton, who was 46. But JFK -- for all his dilatory ways and playboy dalliances -- spent 14 years in Congress before he ran in 1960. Bill Clinton waited a similar 14 years before he embarked on his 1992 bid for the presidency. But Obama, first elected to the Illinois Legislature in 1996, normally would personify a young man in a hurry.

Democratic insider Steve Elmendorf, who worked for Gephardt in 2004 before becoming deputy campaign manager for John Kerry, knows something about presidential candidates with lengthy Capitol Hill résumés. "What Obama's people tell me," Elmendorf said, "is that he was constantly asking, 'What would spending four more years in the United States Senate do to make me a better candidate?'" And as Elmendorf put it, "Maybe he is right. Maybe four more years in the Senate would just make Obama more senatorial."

What is strange about the 2008 Democratic field is that voters will be offered a stark choice between star power (Obama, Hillary Clinton and, to a lesser extent, Edwards) and long-shot candidates with traditional political résumés. Both Joe Biden (who announces he is running every time he appears on television) and Chris Dodd (who declared on the "Imus in the Morning" radio show last week) have spent more than three decades in Congress. New Mexico Gov. Bill Richardson (who is expected to join the race) was first elected to Congress in 1982 and later served in the Clinton cabinet as secretary of energy and as U.N. ambassador.

"The bar that Obama has to overcome is that two and a half years ago he was a back-bencher in Springfield, Ill.," said a senior advisor for one of Obama's more seasoned Democratic rivals. "He has to convince voters that his youth and inexperience are virtues not deficits." Anita Dunn, who had been advising Evan Bayh on his recently abandoned presidential bid, made an analogous point about Obama in far more charitable fashion. "He has to show people, not tell people, that he's ready for this," Dunn said. "And he has the talent and the commitment to do it."

Iraq, currently the single-minded preoccupation of Democratic voters, is what complicates the experience question. Obama had the instincts to oppose the run-up to war as a state legislator, even though he had never benefited from a single top-secret governmental briefing. Sens. Clinton, Edwards, Biden, Dodd and Kerry -- whatever their top-secret inner reservations -- all voted to grant the president the power to invade Iraq.

Obama, for all his personal appeal, is not yet a polished presidential candidate. He was unimpressive answering questions on Iraq from Bob Schieffer on "Face the Nation" last Sunday, beginning one answer about whether Congress could block the increase in troop levels with this mouthful of Senate-speak: "Funding is going to come through the supplementals, Bob, and the president hasn't yet presented that." There is also a vagueness in Obama's rhetoric once he tries to move from the inspirational (at which he excels) to the programmatic (still a work in progress).

Perhaps the most amazing aspect of Obama's decision to seek to become the 44th president is that virtually all of the initial reservations about his candidacy are premised on this question of experience. Who ever imagined, during the long terrible history of American race relations, that when the first black candidate made a serious bid for the presidency, the color of his skin would be regarded as close to an irrelevancy.

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por atomez » 16/1/2007 23:23

Já viram o tipo a falar? É um comunicador espectacular. Melhor ainda que o Bill Clinton, que era já bem acima da média.

O tipo tem já uma aceitação entre toda a gente que já está ao nível do Tiger Woods ou da Oprah Winfrey - a cor da pele já não conta.

A minha aposta é que o ticket democrata vai ser Clinton (Hillary)-Obama, ou então Obama-Clinton. Não sei é qual deles irá ficar como candidato a Prez e a VP.
As pessoas são tão ingénuas e tão agarradas aos seus interesses imediatos que um vigarista hábil consegue sempre que um grande número delas se deixe enganar.
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por scpnuno » 16/1/2007 22:44

Comentador Escreveu:E obrigado por me ter promovido a comendador.

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:oops: :oops:
As minhas desculpas.

Eu ando a ficar baralhada com os nicks, juro. É o "espanador", o "pataniscas de frango"...

Se resolvem começar a lançar topicos como o Midas, qualquer dia temos:

"O Sabor das Pataniscas de Frango - EDP"

"O Pó do Espanador - Motaengil"

Eu já não tenho idade para estas coisas...

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por @rmando » 16/1/2007 22:23

A esta distãncia é como em qualquer lado... nomes para queimar!
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por Rui A » 16/1/2007 22:22

Comentador Escreveu:E obrigado por me ter promovido a comendador.


:mrgreen: :P
 
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por Comentador » 16/1/2007 22:18

É tão esperta que já pôs o marido a fazer campanha (e da forte) por ela!

E obrigado por me ter promovido a comendador.

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por scpnuno » 16/1/2007 22:12

Comendador, estava a brincar, claro.

No entanto, como mulher, devo dizer que não gostei da atitude dela com o "perdão" ao marido quando da "grande barraca".

Vendo aquilo à distancia que me é dado ver e sabendo aquilo que a comunicação social divulga, tudo me leva a crer que ela "perdoou" ao marido a troco do seu próprio futuro politico...

Ela é esperta e tem futuro (e é gira, já agora) mas, entre ela e a Condy, prefiro a Condy.

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por Comentador » 16/1/2007 22:07

Não costumo meter-me nestas "discussões", mas o assunto das eleições americanas toca-nos a todos...

Embora ache que scpnuno é de certa maneira uma mais valia do Caldeirão, desta vez não concordo com o facto de chamar tia à Hillary Cliton. E ainda por cima, a Cinha lá do sítio?

Bom, se calhar é uma piada e eu fui na conversa. Falando a sério a Condi é, sem sombra de dúvida, o "homem" deste período do governo americano (é o poder real).

Agora a a Hillary tem a minha admiração pelo seu estatuto político e pessoal. Embora a sua vitória seja extremamnte difícil pois a luta ainda mal começou, é significativo que a muito prestigiada e conservadora revista "The Economist" a coloque nesta fase prévia à frente de toda a concorrência.

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por vitor79 » 16/1/2007 21:58

Eu ainda continu achar que a casa branca não tem esse nome por causa da pintura.

Infelizmente, na minha opinião pois mostra que ainda graça bastante racismo por aquelas terras.

Pode ser que ele inverta a tendencia.

Eu gostava que fosse o Al Gore, e pnso que ele não está completamente fora da corrida.

Vamos ver.
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por Keyser Soze » 16/1/2007 21:38

Dwer Escreveu:Há uma coisa que eu nunca vou perceber: porque que raio é que ele é negro segundo os americanos?
(e segundo o Keyser tb :))


eu não disse nada catano...foi o SMALL
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por scpnuno » 16/1/2007 21:33

Dwer Escreveu:... Não gosto de usar o termo preto, mas menos ainda negro ou de côr. Bom bom era que não fosse necessário realçar o facto da côr da pele. É uma coisa obsoleta...


E há pessoas como tu, Dwer, que quando escrevem coisas como estas, merecem ser tratados por Homem, com H maiusculo.

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por lutav » 16/1/2007 21:25

Hillary for the win :)
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por scpnuno » 16/1/2007 21:11

Yeap..

E a seguir eras recrutado para ir para o Iraque... :P

Por acaso, não me importava nada de ver a Condy na casa branca ( a tia Hilary, não, please - aquilo é a Cinha Jardim lá do sitio)

A Condy, como se diria no Norte (calma, não é o post da guerra norte/sul) - a Condy tem " os .. no sitio". Gosto da mulher (salve seja, com as devidas reticencias)
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por Dwer » 16/1/2007 21:09

Há uma coisa que eu nunca vou perceber: porque que raio é que ele é negro segundo os americanos?
(e segundo o Keyser tb :))

É tanto preto como branco! fifty / fifty.

Outra coisa: não é uma premiére também a Condy como secretária de estado? Mulher já tinha sido a Madeleine Albright.
Preto (segundo o conceito américa) foi o Colin Powell.

Mulher e preta ainda não tinha havido.

PS: Não gosto de usar o termo preto, mas menos ainda negro ou de côr. Bom bom era que não fosse necessário realçar o facto da côr da pele. É uma coisa obsoleta.
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por PIKAS » 16/1/2007 21:07

Isto era do arco da velha.

Acho que está na altura de todos os cidadãos conscientes do mundo reclamarem o direito de votar nas eleições presidenciais americanas. E porquê?

Se os portugueses elegerem Cavaco Silva para PR o máximo que pode acontecer é um avanço ou retrocesso no caso de Olivença.

Os americanos elegeram um presidente. Tudo ok. O protocolo de Quioto? o preço mundial do petróleo e as consequências na minha bomba de gasolina?

Tenho que considerar que as decisões do Sr. Bush também me afectam. Daí que eu também tenho o direito de votar na sua eleição ou reeleição.

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por Dwer » 16/1/2007 21:01

parece-me que ainda é muito cedo para o Obama

mas o primeiro nome diz tudo: Barack = aquele que tem sorte
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por Keyser Soze » 16/1/2007 20:28

a Condi não vai entrar na corrida

do lado republicano tens o Giuliani e John McCain entre outros
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