Gasóleo sobe 7 cêntimos, gasolina aumenta 2,5 após corte no ISP

[MarcoAntonio]

Pois, ocorreu-me que se tratasse disso (evocar a memória desse dia) mas como não estava claro...

[andraderui]

Relembrar neste dia, o que alguns traders (chat do activetrader) escreviam durante aquelas horas horriveis.

[MarcoAntonio]

Aparentemente é uma transcrição de um chat durante o dia 11 de Setembro de 2001 desde as 0 horas até poucos minutos após o primeiro embate (8.55 tendo o primeiro embate ocorrido às 8.46).

Não sei se há algum motivo/razão especial para colocar isto (Andrade, podes esclarecer)?

[Pata-Hari]

desculpa lá, andrade... mas o que é isto...?

[andraderui]

Session Start: Tue Sep 11 00:00:00 2001

Session Time: Tue Sep 11 00:00:00 2001

[00:00] <prttrdr> mom and pop still buying into ridiculous biotech pipedream valuations
[00:00] <codeblue> isn't it expensive to short a REIT?
[00:00] <prttrdr> momo junkies going to the last source in town
[00:00] <prttrdr> biotechs are so overvalued it isnt even funny
[00:00] <prttrdr> but vestiges of momo remain there
[00:02] <prttrdr> this little sandwich guy on letterman is very likable
[00:02] <codeblue> hedge fund guys should be shorting and going long - that's why its called a hedge fund (<g>), but they don't listen to me.
[00:02] <prttrdr> i personally believe we are going into a deep dark horrible depression
[00:03] <prttrdr> teenage girl mall buying and inflated yuppie homes arent going to hold us up
[00:03] <prttrdr> we are going down hard
[00:03] <prttrdr> that is my firm belief
[00:04] <prttrdr> i told my bankers i would personally shoot them if they didnt have my cash when i called for it
[00:04] <Cassandra> well be all means, make a run on the bank and get your money
[00:06] <prttrdr> this girl on letterman has emphasized her cleavage with just a touch too much makeup
[00:07] <prttrdr> thats an interesting word cleavage cleaver cleaving all militaristic tones I have been slain by cleavage and most men have
[00:11] <rif> recession have not begun yet
[00:11] <prttrdr> wow letterman just asked this shapely gal if she was wearing a maternity dress
[00:11] <prttrdr> what a clod
[00:12] <rif> people still buying new cars and homes still increasing
[00:12] <Cassandra> ive started ranking late night shows right up there with stern, they are all offensive imo
[00:12] <prttrdr> leno i do not like
[00:13] <prttrdr> letterman i like to watch for the offbeat stuff like guess the ny subway guys sandwich thing
[00:15] <codeblue> I bought six case of whiskey - who needs pork and beans?
[00:15] <prttrdr> i believe many households are living on refinancing paper gains and it will catch up to them roseanne arnolds of the world dont know they are broke until the banks and the govt tell them they are
[00:15] <prttrdr> codeblue lol
[00:15] <codeblue> wow - deja vu, I scrolled up and replied to the conversation way up there ...
[00:15] <prttrdr> lol
[00:16] <codeblue> who let me drive this thing, anyway?
[00:16] <prttrdr> clinton did
[00:17] <prttrdr> this girl on letterman is good
[00:17] <codeblue> yeah the prob. is that banks by their nature are leveraged, so a small hit in terms of defaults and stuff can be a big hit to reserves and the bottom line
[00:18] <Cassandra> hey guys
[00:18] <Cassandra> in short
[00:18] <codeblue> who's the girl (TV off at the moment)
[00:18] <Cassandra> can someone tell me why the alt energy's got fluffed up eod?
[00:18] <pttrdr> conf tomorrow in NYC fuelcells
[00:18] <codeblue> here's my theory ...
[00:18] <Cassandra> thanks
[00:18] <Cassandra> i missed that whole move
[00:19] <codeblue> what if Bush and the boyz decide to promote fool cells and alternate energy?
[00:19] <pttrdr> this girl on letterman is really good she has a touch of gracie allens comic foil but she is modern that she gives dave zingers
[00:19] <pttrdr> i can see why regis picked her
[00:19] <Cassandra> your gonna make me ask who it is aint ya?
[00:19] <pttrdr> kelly something
[00:20] <Cassandra> Rippa
[00:20] <Cassandra> she just had a baby
[00:20] <pttrdr> kelly the new regis person
[00:20] <Cassandra> thats a rerun
[00:20] <pttrdr> she is great
[00:20] <Cassandra> she got a spotted dress?
[00:20] <Cassandra> like a cow?
[00:20] <pttrdr> yes
[00:20] <Cassandra> seen it
[00:20] <pttrdr> cow dress
[00:20] <Cassandra> she is cute
[00:20] <pttrdr> lol
[00:20] <Cassandra> she's on all my children
[00:20] <Cassandra> has been for a zillion years
[00:20] <codeblue> Kelly Ripa
[00:20] <Cassandra> from when she was a teen
[00:20] <Cassandra> she's cutesy
[00:20] <pttrdr> no kidding
[00:21] <Cassandra> nope
[00:21] <Cassandra> in fact
[00:21] <Cassandra> she is in real life married to her on screen ( daytime ) flame
[00:21] <pttrdr> she just said that
[00:22] <pttrdr> did a little bit on it saves the hassle of testing new loves with herpes and strep throat et
[00:22] <pttrdr> etc
[00:22] <Cassandra> LOL
[00:22] <pttrdr> lol
[00:23] <pttrdr> when PIPR gets weak on that flying porker lcbm i am going to powe slamma jamma short that sucker
[00:23] <pttrdr> pipr you better bring the whole package tomorrow you rat bastid mm you
[00:24] <Cassandra> he has a family to feed as well, be nice
[00:24] <codeblue> ICBM - no such symbol
[00:24] <Cassandra> mm's are just traders with better tools and more money
[00:24] <codeblue> cool symbol tho
[00:24] <pttrdr> it cleared one 100k high block
[00:24] <pttrdr> LCBM
[00:24] <Alvero> Lcbm
[00:24] <pttrdr> without PIPR it is doomed
[00:24] <codeblue> oops - let me refocus that screen
[00:24] <pttrdr> when pipr leaves there is zero support
[00:25] <pttrdr> but pipr has been strong
[00:25] <pttrdr> gotta go through at least one day of support so the retail people that the pipr phone brigade sucked in wont cry too loudly
[00:25] <codeblue> what does LCBM's stuff do?
[00:26] <dp1> news release says FDA approval just a formality now
[00:26] <dp1> controls scarring
[00:26] <codeblue> Lee Schafer, an analyst with Bluefire Research, said he expected Feigal to follow the panel recommendation and estimated U.S. sales of about $18 million by mid-2003, making it the Chaska, Minnesota-based company's top-selling product.
[00:26] <codeblue> $18 mil. that's peanuts
[00:27] <pttrdr> they say it helps women with feminine surgery heal better...but the facts are it works no better than the placebo and causes more infection that the placebo....the dispute committee chari was an internist who had his head turned by a presentation
[00:27] <dp1> another says $500m
[00:27] <pttrdr> i think its no better than dirty superglue
[00:27] <pttrdr> and will be rejected by the sober FDA
[00:27] <pttrdr> conspiracy theorists think the kid internist on the dispute panel was bought off
[00:28] <pttrdr> even if it is approved LCBM is trading way above future (dream ) revs
[00:28] <pttrdr> if the full FDA gently hammers it it halts and opens below 2
[00:29] <codeblue> the article is kinda interesting ... "It was clear the LifeCore presentation was compelling to the panel, both in the way they presented evidence and the strength of the evidence,'' said Scott Ramsey, the panel's acting chairman and an internist at the University of Washington in Seattle.
[00:29] <codeblue> I can't see how the insurance companies would support such a non-conclusive treatment
[00:30] <Cassandra> you havent ever had a baby by c-section and live with the scarring then
[00:30] <pttrdr> thats another thing with this preliminary approval the PIPR analyst (pipr floated the ipo) and the CFO started spewing these large numbers ...each larger than the next one would quote the "market" for such a product another would quote revs for the next 4 years then the next 3 years then this then that
[00:30] <pttrdr> its smelly
[00:30] <Cassandra> another perk of being a female, the scars suck
[00:31] <pttrdr> premature euphoria
[00:31] <codeblue> Surgeons use the gel, which has a consistency similar to motor oil, by squirting it into the body as they finish surgery. Several physicians said it is much easier to use than other products now on the market.
[00:31] <codeblue> sure hope they reach for the right can ...
[00:31] <pttrdr> i have a strong feeling that vaseline or bacitracin ointment does better
[00:32] <pttrdr> its way overdone the thing is.....when will pipr bail and the power shorts slam it back to 5 or less
[00:32] <incognito> best chart of the evening: http://www.randi.org/images/07-27-01-DOTS.gif
[00:32] <Hood> ok everybody behave
[00:32] <codeblue> When looking only at U.S. patients, ``it is clear there is very little difference between Intergel and control'' in reducing adhesions, Kotz told the panel. Another FDA reviewer said rates of infections appeared higher in patients treated with Intergel.
[00:32] <Hood> Incogs here !
[00:32] <Cassandra> and if it does work, there is a huge mkt for that, and insurance companys would support it i bet, due to the mental stress that can come with the scarring
[00:32] <incognito> Cassandra?
[00:32] <incognito> oy
[00:32] <Cassandra> hi!
[00:32] <incognito> hi
[00:33] <Cassandra> she was a Goddess
[00:33] <pttrdr> codeblue u found the key FDA phrase
[00:33] <Cassandra> Cassandra that is
[00:33] <incognito> and a witch on Dark Shadows!
[00:33] <Hood> hi
[00:33] <pttrdr> <codeblue> When looking only at U.S. patients, ``it is clear there is very little difference between Intergel and control'' in reducing adhesions, Kotz told the panel. Another FDA reviewer said rates of infections appeared higher in patients treated with Intergel.
[00:33] <incognito> Cassandra Collins
[00:33] <incognito> lol'
[00:34] <pttrdr> that is another thing....this latest presentation relied on European data and the full FDA is not prone to recommend on eurodata
[00:34] <Cassandra> Cassandra was a seer, but she was cursed with noone believing her, so her prophecys went unheeded, noteably the trojan horse
[00:34] <codeblue> Richard Kotz, an FDA statistician, said patients in Europe and the United States started with different levels of adhesions and other disparities, which meant their results should not be combined for analysis.
[00:35] <incognito> I bet she knew the rules
[00:35] <incognito> but the rules went unheeded
[00:35] <Alvero> i believe in trojans
[00:35] <incognito> lol
[00:35] <codeblue> lol
[00:36] <incognito> all the charts look the same
[00:37] <incognito> ghastly
[00:37] <codeblue> 7.5M flot on LCBM, and not a lot of short interest (or trading volume)
[00:37] <pttrdr> yup when PIPR leaves lcbm crashes hard
[00:37] <pttrdr> pipr is the only support
[00:38] <emad> any one can help and explain how to use Financialchat with mIRC please.
[00:38] <incognito> Cassandra is the expert
[00:39] <incognito>
[00:39] <Cassandra> me?
[00:39] <Cassandra> hi emad
[00:39] * incognito grins
[00:39] <Cassandra> what can i help you with?
[00:39] * Cassandra kicks incog under the table
[00:39] <emad> hi how are you
[00:39] * incognito hides
[00:39] <Cassandra> decent, yourself?
[00:39] <Hood> lol
[00:39] <emad> fine
[00:40] <Cassandra> irc probs?
[00:40] <emad> yes
[00:40] <Cassandra> or just need to get here with mirc?
[00:40] <Cassandra> go to http://www.financialchat.com/help
[00:40] <Cassandra> or the Help Tab there on our home page
[00:40] <emad> i did
[00:40] <Cassandra> and theres full instructions on how to set up mirc for this network
[00:40] <Cassandra> ok
[00:41] <Cassandra> and your experiencing probs?
[00:41] <codeblue> today's QQQ chart analysis: the patient is still critical, but has been moved off life support
[00:41] <emad> I did but not work
[00:41] <Cassandra> what do you have in the connect area at File - Options - Connect - Add for a server name?
[00:42] <emad> As help said.
[00:42] <codeblue> but wait - you're talking to us on IRC ....
[00:42] <Light> !world
[00:42] * incognito wonders if it is plugged in
[00:43] <Cassandra> best bet is to use the dns if your having issues, instead of irc.financialchat.com use this ip
[00:43] <Cassandra> 216.152.64.211
[00:43] <Cassandra> try that instead
[00:43] <Cassandra> there may be dns issues somewhere
[00:43] <NadaClue> 10,0ASIA china 14,0^SSEA 3,0 3,0 +0.05%   HK 14,0^HSI 4,0 4,0 -0.52%   JP 14,0^n225 3,0 3,0 +1.26%   Singapore 14,0^STI 3,0 3,0 +0.49%   TW 14,0^TWII 4,0 4,0 -2.08%   S.Kor 14,014,0^KS11 4,0 4,0 -1.35%   Malaysia 14,0^KLSE 4,0 4,0 -0.30%  
[00:43] <NadaClue> 10,0Europe Fr 14,0^FCHI 4,0 4,0 -0.31%   DE 14,0^GDAXI 4,0 4,0 -3.22%   UK 14,0^FTSE 14 unch  ISR 14,0^TA100 14 unch  Spain 14,0^SMSI 4,0 4,0 -1.99%   Swed 14,0^SXAXPI 4,0 4,0 -1.81%   Italy 14,0^MIBTEL 4,0 4,0 -0.98%  
[00:43] <NadaClue> 10,0Mars Aussie 14,0^AORD 3,0 3,0 +0.18%   N.Z. 14,0^NZ40 3,0 3,0 +0.66%  
[00:43] <codeblue> pull up a dos window and type "ping irc.financialchat.com" (w/out the quotes)
[00:44] <codeblue> and "tracert irc.financialchat.com" (w/out the quotes)
[00:44] <incognito> dos is hard
[00:44] <codeblue> and windows isn't?
[00:44] <incognito> lol
[00:44] <Cassandra> good advice if we were in 1996 again codeblue, hehe, but thats not needed for what he is doing
[00:44] <emad> It is working fine with other channl
[00:44] <Cassandra> he can get here on java obviously
[00:44] <codeblue> It could tell if there's a DNS prob.
[00:44] <codeblue> or a routing prob.
[00:45] <Cassandra> what other channel?
[00:45] <emad> daytrader
[00:45] <incognito> :0
[00:45] <Cassandra> ya well, thats another network
[00:45] <Cassandra> we are independant of any other irc networks
[00:46] <Cassandra> open up your mirc that you want to bring here and in the edit bar where you normally type, type /server 216.152.64.211
[00:46] <Cassandra> and tell me what ya get
[00:46] <emad> ok
[00:47] <incognito> GX had a nice day
[00:47] <Cassandra> be sure you have the connect fields filled out with a alter nickname otherwise if you log on as emad, and dont have that filled in, it will stop you on connect and tell you to pick one cuz emad is in use
[00:48] <emad> fine tnx very much.
[00:48] <incognito> seee Cassandra is the expert
[00:49] <emad> yes he is.
[00:49] <Cassandra> he?
[00:49] <incognito> lol
[00:49] <Cassandra> he.he.he.
[00:49] <Cassandra> !
[00:50] <pttrdr> RIMM mamma slamma jamma tomorrow
[00:51] <pttrdr> reuters article tonight
[00:51] <Cassandra> ya think?
[00:51] <Cassandra> post
[00:51] <Cassandra> ive got a little interest in RIMM, i am looking to catch a bottom on it eventually
[00:51] <pttrdr> i lost it ...basically MOT taking their market
[00:51] <pttrdr> reuters around 5:30ish
[00:51] <Cassandra> thanks
[00:51] <dp1> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001091 ... _dc_1.html
[00:52] <pttrdr> tks
[00:52] <Cassandra> dp1 is da man
[00:52] <rjc> RIMM BK?
[00:52] <pttrdr> the RIMM header from hell
[00:52] <pttrdr> Motorola to Invade RIM's Space with New Device
[00:52] <rjc> hey RIMM is shortable
[00:52] <rjc> lol
[00:53] <rjc> you got $9 of room suz
[00:53] <Cassandra> neah
[00:53] <Cassandra> too many monsters still left
[00:53] <Cassandra> like NVDA! yeehaw
[00:54] <incognito> MSFT making a competing video card?
[00:54] <rjc> what is wrong with DIS?
[00:54] <codeblue> NVDA as a short? I thought half the free world was long NVDA
[00:55] <Cassandra> LOL
[00:55] <Cassandra> i was short in and out NVDA all day today
[00:55] <codeblue> I learned one thing from the dotcom mania - don't short a manipulated stock - and NVDA sure looks like one - intraday is another matter
[00:56] <pttrdr> one day NVDA will break
[00:56] <Cassandra> tomorrow it will split
[00:56] <Cassandra> that will be the beginning of the end for NVDA
[00:56] <codeblue> RIMM is getting some not so good reviews because of the closed nature of its interface
[00:57] <Cassandra> it will be a 15 dollar stock by Oct 30th
[00:57] <Cassandra> IMO ofc
[00:57] <codeblue> not like the old days, where the mere rumor of a split drove the stock up 2x, so that when it split, it was the same
[00:57] <codeblue> who's NVDA's competition?
[00:58] <dp1> ATYT
[00:58] <incognito> NVDA has 80% market share
[00:58] <codeblue> ah good old ATI - I hate their stuff
[00:59] <codeblue> weird ATI settings control software and some bizarre behavior now and then
[00:59] <dp1> KKD looks broken after last split
[00:59] <codeblue> yup - there's a hole in it
[01:00] <codeblue> the chart says KKD is a $15 stock, right now $28
[01:01] <codeblue> NVDA reminds me of Sandisk and SSTI
[01:01] <incognito> I remember SNDK well in the 60s
[01:01] <codeblue> (SSTI was my sad story of the year - bought 4K at $3, sold at $12, thinking it was overpriced, and watched it go to $100 (pre-split) ... sigh)
[01:02] <Cassandra> reminds me of CIEN when i started shorting it in the 70's heh
[01:02] <incognito> shoulda just STAYED short Suz
[01:02] <Cassandra> lol
[01:02] <Cassandra> yup
[01:02] <incognito> so much easier
[01:02] <codeblue> Yeah, I shorted CIEN in the 70's and covered there too (day trade) - sign
[01:02] <codeblue> sigh
[01:03] <incognito> (but 1/2 the fun)
[01:03] <Cassandra> if i did that
[01:03] <Cassandra> what would i do all day?
[01:03] <incognito> besides our brokers need comissions
[01:03] <incognito> lol
[01:04] <codeblue> I think the selling isn't over yet - I got my first cold call in ages today
[01:04] <codeblue> they're a lot more pleasant than they used to be
[01:05] <incognito> market needs a catalyst
[01:05] <codeblue> good point
[01:05] <incognito> "WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A temporary cut in Social Security (news - web sites) payroll taxes and a capital gains tax cut are two options that could help give the flagging U.S. economy a quick boost, Senate Republican leader Trent Lott said on Monday."
[01:05] <incognito> watch Washington DC for one
[01:06] <incognito> our Senators and Reps have stock too
[01:06] <codeblue> the cap gains cut - double edged sword
[01:06] <incognito> ofc
[01:06] <codeblue> will encourage selling
[01:06] <incognito> but it would be a catalyst
[01:06] <codeblue> the selling may help add liquidity, and fill the govt. coffers - but it ain't gonna make stocks go up
[01:07] <incognito> I noticed the Feds were pumping all day to no avail. All those lame news releases.
[01:07] <codeblue> and cutting social security taxes is strange idea given the current state of the SS system
[01:07] <incognito> it would add a lot of cash to the spending public
[01:07] <codeblue> yeah - they were talking up a storm - full court press
[01:07] <incognito> didn't work
[01:07] <codeblue> me thinks they protest too much
[01:07] <LiT-LadY> will this new Motorola device have phone?
[01:08] <incognito> Bernie Schaeffer on the pump: http://www.sir-inc.com/schaeffer/bernie ... sp?ID=4074
[01:08] <codeblue> do most folks have their stocks in taxable accounts?
[01:09] <codeblue> I don't think so
[01:09] <incognito> I have both
[01:11] <codeblue> Bernie sounds a little negative there, doesn't he?
[01:11] <incognito> a bit
[01:11] <incognito> I like his slant
[01:12] <incognito> upgrades get sold, downgrades get bought, no one paying attention anymore to the Wall Street analysts
[01:12] <incognito> now CEOs in the game
[01:12] <incognito> and its not working
[01:13] <LiT-LadY> http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001091 ... ss_dc.html
[01:15] <codeblue> if bull markets climb a wall of wory, what do bear markets do?
[01:15] <codeblue> fall down the stairs of optimism?
[01:15] <pttrdr> stroll down memory lane
[01:15] <incognito> lol
[01:16] <incognito> just give me 2 bux in the QQQs and I will be happy
[01:16] <codeblue> analyst in front of microphone: "tap, tap, tap ... is this thing on?"
[01:16] <codeblue> A: no.
[01:19] <codeblue> nicotine vaccine: http://dailynews.yahoo.com/h/nm/2001090 ... va_dc.html
[01:23] <pitviper> ]q
[01:23] <codeblue> ]f
[01:23] <NadaClue> 14,0 0:20 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1096  3,0 +0.25 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1371  3,0 +0.5 
[01:23] <codeblue> ]q ^n225
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[01:32] <nICK> ]q ^n225
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[01:40] *** Alvero is now known as WillAtl
[01:43] <Cassandra> While necessity may be the mother of invention, don't underestimate people's desire for products that are maintenance-free. Disposable products fill that niche in modern society. In the interest of saving time and money, inventors have given us many disposable products, including ball point pens, razors, diapers, cameras and cigarette lighters. By the end of 2001, you will be able to add cell phones to the plethora of products that can be used
[01:43] <Cassandra> At least three companies are developing independent versions of a disposable cell phone. The first of these talk-and-toss phones could be on the market by October 2001. These phones will be stripped down versions of their high-priced counterparts, and will cost $10 to $30 for about an hour of talk time. The phones are designed to target the 60 percent of Americans who still don't own a mobile phone.
[01:43] <Cassandra> 60%? how do they function?
[01:44] <Cassandra> Talking Through Paper
[01:44] <Cassandra> It's no surprise that one of the people who has invented a disposable cell phone is a toy designer. Randi Altschul, of Dieceland Technologies, has developed a credit-card-sized, paper cell phone. It's designed to be bought, used and thrown away. The 2-by-3-inch (5.08 by 7.62 cm) phone is made by printing cell-phone circuitry onto a paper substrate, which is then sealed and laminated.
[01:45] <Cassandra> If you were to crack open a conventional cell phone, you would find a circuit board and other components, such as a speaker and microphone. All of the circuits are made of tiny metallic wires that connect the various microprocessors, the speaker and the microphone. Dieceland's disposable cell phone has basically the same configuration, except metallic inks are used in place of wires. This ink is printed onto the substrate, and then other compo
[01:45] <Cassandra> Part of the idea behind the disposable cell phone is to make the manufacturing of cell phones cheap and easy. The manufacturing process described in the U.S. patent issued to Altschul is remarkably simple. Let's take a look at the components of the Dieceland Phone-Card Phone:
[01:46] <Cassandra> Paper substrate - Dieceland had originally planned to use a synthetic polymeric material like Mylar, but the company has since developed a more practical paper substrate. Similar to a printing press, rolls of this material are fed into a machine and the material winds through a series of stations, each station adding a component to the substrate.
[01:46] <Cassandra> Circuit lines - Metallic inks are printed onto the substrate to create the circuits, conductors and other components. The circuit line is similar to the circuit board of a conventional cell phone, only the circuits are printed over a larger area.
[01:47] <Cassandra> Non-printed components - Not all of the phone's components can be printed, so they are added at a separate station. These components, which include thin crystals and capacitors, are placed in a cavity that is formed in the body of the telephone. Other surface components, including the keypad, are fixed to the substrate.
[01:47] <Cassandra> Graphics - As the material moves through the assembly machine, various graphics are printed onto the substrate. These graphics include the keyboard numbers and various decorative designs. Kids could have a disposable cell phone with their favorite cartoon characters or Hollywood stars printed on it. Sports fans might want their favorite teams printed on the phone.
[01:47] <Cassandra> Adhesive - The components are placed on one side of the substrate, and an adhesive is placed on the opposite side. Once the adhesive is applied to the back of the substrate, it is sent to a station that folds the substrate on top of itself.
[01:47] <Cassandra> Once the material has been folded, it is compressed to create a semi-rigid structure that is about as thick as three credit cards. At this point, a sheath of synthetic polymeric material is placed over the structure to seal and complete the phone body. This sheath includes an opening for a port, where a headset can be plugged into the phone. A small AAA battery attaches to one end.
[01:48] <Cassandra> Dieceland Technologies is still developing the phone, and has said it will cost about $10 for one hour of talk time. Recently, the company signed a distribution deal with General Electric, which will distribute the phones in North America.
[01:48] * Cassandra hums.. GE.. we bring good things to life..
[01:49] <Cassandra> Hop-On's Recyclable Phone
[01:49] <Cassandra> If you were to look at Dieceland's phone and the phone developed by Hop-On Wireless, you wouldn't see much of a difference at first glance. However, the Hop-On phone is made from plastic. The small, credit-card-sized phone is 2.25 inches (5.72 cm) wide, 4.25 inches (10.8 cm) tall and 0.4 inches (1.02 cm) thick. Like the Phone-Card phone, it also lacks a display.
[01:49] <Cassandra> The Hop-On phone, like all of the disposable phones, will be restricted to outgoing, domestic calls only at first. (All three companies developing these phones have said they will eventually make a phone that allows for incoming calls as well.) The phone (with one hour of talk time) is expected to cost $30.
[01:50] <Cassandra> The phone consists of a simple, two-button keypad. One button starts the call and the other ends it. To make a call, the user will simply say the phone number to be called. When the minutes are all used up, the phone can be returned to the place where it was bought for recycling and a deposit refund. The used phones are collected and sent to Hop-On, which will melt the cases down and recast new phones.
[01:50] <Cassandra> The phone operates in Global System for Mobile communications (GSM), code division multiple access (CDMA) and time division multiple access (TDMA) protocols. It features an internal antenna, a hands-free ear piece and a microphone jack. Hop-On has said its phone will be ready for distribution in October 2001.
[01:51] <Cassandra> The Semi-Disposable Phone
[01:51] <Cassandra> If you are looking for something a little more permanent, but still cheap, you may opt for the Telespree phone, which is only partially disposable. Consumers who use the Telespree phone will keep the phone's handset, while periodically replacing the disposable battery pack. Telespree describes its product as "Over-the-Counter Wireless," as opposed to "disposable."
[01:51] <Cassandra> The Telespree phone has two basic parts:
[01:51] <Cassandra> Handset - This is the hard-plastic casing, equipped with a single button to make calls with.
[01:51] <Cassandra> AirClip - This component is the disposable portion of the phone. It contains the battery and keeps track of available minutes. The AirClip snaps into the phone and is thrown away after a set number of minutes has been used.
[01:51] <Cassandra> To use the phone, users simply snap a Telespree disposable AirClip onto the back of their handset. AirClips will be available with 30, 60, 90 and 120 minutes of use. To dial a number, users push the single button on the handset and say the phone number they want to call. Once the minutes on the AirClip are used up, users can dispose of the old clip and buy a new one.
[01:52] <Cassandra> When a call is made, a recorded reminder will inform the user of how many minutes remain on the AirClip. Initially, Telespree will offer phones with outgoing calls only. New versions that allow incoming calls will be available in the next year.
[01:52] <Cassandra> Telespree plans to release its phone in early 2002. The phone will cost about $30 at the time of purchase and will come with 30 minutes of talk time. As the initial AirClip runs out, users can opt to buy more minutes at a cost of about 30 to 50 cents per minute.
[01:52] <tradingtrader> hey anyone know what happened to HPOW?
[01:52] <tradingtrader> saw the initial spike but completely missed it's close
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[01:55] <Hood> nite Suz
[02:07] <Light> ]f
[02:07] <NadaClue> 14,0 1:06 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1096  3,0 +0.25 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1371  3,0 +0.5 
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[03:14] <jazzteline> aki no hay nadieeeeee
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[05:45] <wings> gm
[05:45] <Young_Grasshopper> Anyone out there?
[05:45] <Kitt> Morning Young'n
[05:45] <wings> yawn..
[05:46] <Young_Grasshopper> just doing a little research
[05:46] <Young_Grasshopper> is this Kitt from TA?
[05:46] <Kitt> yes
[05:46] <Kitt> can say GM over there if you prefer
[05:46] <Young_Grasshopper> anyway, I doing some charts for my technical analysis class that I am taking at Golden Gate University.
[05:47] <Young_Grasshopper> Sorry
[05:47] <Young_Grasshopper> I am even mroe self-absorbed right now
[05:47] <Young_Grasshopper> Morning....
[05:47] <Young_Grasshopper> just looking for some chart patterns in the wee hours
[05:52] <Young_Grasshopper> I did not realize we made new lows on the SnP
[05:52] <Young_Grasshopper> I have been away for a while
[05:56] <t1> yeah, the Q's tested the April lows
[05:56] <Young_Grasshopper> ouch
[05:56] <Salmon> hello
[05:57] <Salmon> In whitch room is Veterantrader?
[05:57] <Young_Grasshopper> dont know
[05:59] <wings> looks like we broke the negative trend for a short moment
[06:00] <Young_Grasshopper> what time frame?
[06:00] <wings> next 2-4 days
[06:01] <Young_Grasshopper> oh, so are we heading up, ya think? simply cuz we did not go down that much yesterday?
[06:02] <wings> yes, up to flat for next few days
[06:02] <wings> but..
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[06:03] <Young_Grasshopper> I think it is going to be blah blah and blah for a while....
[06:03] <wings>
[06:03] <Jochen2000> Guten Tag allerseits
[06:03] <wings> gm
[06:04] <Young_Grasshopper> while new leaders build bases...which wil take and while some of the real loser companies stay flat and drift lower and maybe some of the old economy will get the occaisional shake...
[06:04] <Young_Grasshopper> that base building of course will take a long while
[06:04] <Young_Grasshopper> I am still a bear...
[06:04] <Jochen2000> isch gued......))))
[06:05] <Young_Grasshopper> what does that mean? are you a bear too?
[06:05] <wings> i'm neither a bear nor a bull, i wanna be on the right side :-)
[06:06] <wings> flat to up is the right side for the next few days imho
[06:06] <Jochen2000> At this Day i´m a Bull and Maybe tommorow I must to be a BEAR....
[06:07] <Light> !world
[06:08] <wings> ]q ^gdaxi
[06:08] <NadaClue> 12,0 ^GDAXI 14 XETRA DAX INDEX GER  12 Sep 7 - 4718.44  4,0 -156.93 1,0(4,0 -3.22%  1,0)  1,0C/O 4875.37/4871.41 1,0 L/H 4714.31/4910.93
[06:08] <wings> ]q ^ftse
[06:08] <NadaClue> 12,0 ^FTSE 14 FTSE 100 INDEX FSI  12 6:08AM - 5086.00  3,0 +52.30 1,0(3,0 +1.04%  1,0)  1,0C/O 5033.7/5033.7 1,0 L/H 5033.70/5129.00
[06:09] <wings> DAX is up 82pts
[06:10] <t1> [B] US Today: Key events to watch, and why, on Sep 11
[06:10] <t1> ..............................................................................
[06:10] <t1> AGENDA:
[06:10] <t1> --0900 ET: Redbook weekly survey of US retail sales (Previous week: +0.3%)
[06:10] <t1> --0900 ET: Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi weekly US chain store sales (Previous
[06:10] <t1> week: -0.1%)
[06:10] <t1> --0915 ET: Kansas City Fed Bank Thomas Hoenig speaks to Midwest US-Japan
[06:10] <t1> Association conference; Wichita, Kan.
[06:10] <t1> --1000 ET: Richmond Fed monthly manufacturing and services survey
[06:10] <t1> --1200 ET: Chicago Federal Reserve monthly manufacturing index
[06:10] <t1> --About 1330 ET: Treasury releases results of 4-week Treasury bill auction
[06:11] <wings> Japan up too nearly 1%
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[06:13] <wings> ]f
[06:13] <NadaClue> 14,0 5:12 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1098  3,0 +2.25 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1378.5  3,0 +8 
[06:15] <Young_Grasshopper> anyone have any good chart formations on any chart you guys ben looking at?
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[06:19] <Young_Grasshopper> you guys have longer term short ideas?
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[06:28] <t1> maybe meat equities..I assume that sooner or later mad cow disease will show up in the US
[06:28] <t1> on the short side I mean
[06:29] <t1> that would be positive for the chicken sector
[06:30] <jimpea> blond chicks?
[06:30] <jimpea> ah oh chicken
[06:31] <t1> lol jimpea
[06:32] <jimpea> i need coffee
[06:35] * wings 6buys ESTX50 @ 3483
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[06:36] <jimpea> u long wings?
[06:36] <jimpea> u long wings?
[06:36] <jimpea> oops
[06:36] <wings> yes
[06:37] <jimpea> looks like a technical rebound now
[06:37] <wings> i agree
[06:37] <jimpea> might be shortlived
[06:38] <jimpea> but i assume that might be a bear-trap this time
[06:39] <wings> we sure did come off highs this morning on DAX
[06:39] <wings> just wanna catch a small bounce
[06:39] <jimpea> there are too many ppl waiting for Dax 3500 now
[06:39] <wings> maybe too early tho
[06:41] <wings> i couldnt care less if it trades back to 2k, if im short
[06:42] <jimpea> lol
[06:43] <wings> do ya think Wim D will cut thursday ?
[06:44] * wings 6sells 1/2 ESTX50 @ 3489 +6
[06:44] <jimpea> no
[06:44] <wings> hhmmm
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[07:00] <sashe> .
[07:04] <Crosscheck> good morning
[07:06] <jimpea> NOK positive comments imho
[07:12] <lx2> 7:08am 09/11/01 [NOK] NOKIA SAYS EXPECTS TO MEET Q3 PROFIT ESTIMATE
[07:12] <jimpea> futures rally
[07:12] <NadaClue> 14,0 6:12 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1101  3,0 +5.25 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1386  3,0 +15.5 
[07:13] <lx2> Ericsson +6%
[07:14] <lx2> 7:12am 09/11/01 [NOK] NOKIA SEES U.S. HANDSET DEMAND IMPROVING
[07:16] <lx2> Nokia +10%
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[07:18] <lx2> 7:12am 09/11/01 [NOK] NOKIA SEES U.S. HANDSET DEMAND IMPROVING
[07:18] <jimpea> looks like little short squeeze today
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[07:24] <verona> gm
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[07:26] <CIAP> J
[07:26] <lx2> nice long build-up yesterday Wqlly!!!
[07:27] <lx2> wally
[07:33] <lx2> Nokia +13,5%
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[07:38] <lx2> 7:35am 09/11/01 [EPNY, HUWHY] E.PIPHANY TAPPED FOR CRM ROLE BY HUTCHISON 3G UK UNIT
[07:38] <pinnacle> ]f
[07:39] <pinnacle> futures
[07:39] <WallStArb> Nice rally
[07:39] <lx2> u not long wally?
[07:40] <lx2> 7:37am 09/11/01 [MACR, MSFT] MICROSOFT'S XP TO CONTAIN MACROMEDIA FLASH PLAYER 5
[07:42] <lx2> 7:40am 09/11/01 [AKAM, CPQ, HWP] COMPAQ UNIT TO RESELL AKAMAI'S EDGESUITE SERVICE
[07:42] <lx2> 7:41am 09/11/01 [AKAM, CPQ, HWP] COMPAQ LICENSING EDGESCAPE TECHNOLOGY FROM AKAMAI
[07:42] <WallStArb> BARCELONA (Dow Jones)The president and chief executive of STMicroelectronics NV (STM), Pasquale Pistorio, said Tuesday that the current economic slowdown won't lead the company, Europe's largest chipmaker, to cut back on its major research and development projects.
[07:42] <WallStArb> "For me, in a tough time like this, it's a balance between shortterm needs of improving the needs of the company without compromising the longterm needs...," Pistorio told Dow Jones Newswires on the sideline of a conference in Barcelona.
[07:42] <WallStArb> "So we are trying to cut costs as everybody else is trying to do, we are preserving or even accelerating in the most important R&D strategic programs as well as maintaining investment, even if we are cutting investment very strongly, in the leading edge projects."
[07:43] <pinnacle> futures please
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[07:43] <karp> nq .....1388.00 +17.50 now
[07:44] <pinnacle> tu
[07:45] <karp> yw
[07:45] <WallStArb> ]f
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[07:48] <deac> nok mot csco popping
[07:49] <deac> world is green per briefing
[07:49] <WallStArb> !world
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[07:49] <NadaClue> 10,0ASIA china 14,0^SSEA 3,0 3,0 +0.40%   HK 14,0^HSI 3,0 3,0 +0.49%   JP 14,0^n225 3,0 3,0 +0.95%   Singapore 14,0^STI 3,0 3,0 +0.53%   TW 14,0^TWII 4,0 4,0 -2.62%   S.Kor 14,014,0^KS11 4,0 4,0 -1.84%   Malaysia 14,0^KLSE 4,0 4,0 -0.68%  
[07:49] <NadaClue> 10,0Europe Fr 14,0^FCHI 3,0 3,0 +2.01%   DE 14,0^GDAXI 4,0 4,0 -3.28%   UK 14,0^FTSE 3,0 3,0 +1.45%   ISR 14,0^TA100 3,0 3,0 +0.01%   Spain 14,0^SMSI 4,0 4,0 -1.99%   Swed 14,0^SXAXPI 4,0 4,0 -1.87%   Italy 14,0^MIBTEL 4,0 4,0 -0.98%  
[07:49] <NadaClue> 10,0Mars Aussie 14,0^AORD 4,0 4,0 -0.01%   N.Z. 14,0^NZ40 3,0 3,0 +0.66%  
[07:50] <deac> whoa dax must be wrong says +1+%
[07:52] <verona> these europe quotes are wrong
[07:52] <[Tom]> dax +2,44 %
[07:54] <WallStArb> 07:52 SatCon Tech (SATC) 5.00: Company's Power Systems Canada unit shipped a 250-kilowatt power conversion system to Siemens Westinghouse for use in Siemens' Solid Oxide Fuel Cell. SatCon also received an order from Siemens Westinghouse for two additional systems to be delivered by the end of 2001.
[07:55] <deac> sunw .2 gap
[07:57] <deac> amzn news .3 gap
[07:58] <lx2> 7:54am 09/11/01 [BA] BOEING UPPED TO 'STRONG BUY' AT WELLS FARGO VK
[08:00] <VeteranTrader> morning folks,.. how is everyone today
[08:00] <JohnD9073> emc up .80
[08:03] <deac> bullish for nas if holds gap after 2 narrow range days at bottom
[08:03] <WallStArb> yep
[08:03] <WallStArb> yesterday was a reversal day
[08:03] <deac> prus 90k bid jdsu
[08:03] <DezertRat> lets hope so
[08:04] <Emos> dis you buy a lot yesterday wallstarb ?
[08:04] <Emos> dis
[08:04] <WallStArb> yes
[08:04] <Emos> great
[08:04] <WallStArb> i dis
[08:04] <Emos> jeje
[08:05] <WallStArb> 08:02 Goldman on Tech : Goldman Sachs' tech analysts Laura Conigliaro and Rick Sherlund say that a slow tech recovery is all but inevitable; with communications, financials, and tech itself comprising roughly 58% of IT demand in the bubble, only time can work off the excessive spending.
[08:05] <deac> nok mot emc inca really popping these nyse techs
[08:06] <DezertRat> we should call this new cnbc gal " Pip Squeak "
[08:07] <mauimark> she is the chief economist yikes
[08:07] <DezertRat> I bet she was a cheerleader in school
[08:07] <mauimark> mike jordan=the economy
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[08:08] <Commonman> What timing, I mentioned SATC last night as one of the energy plays and they go and release a press release this morning
[08:08] <Commonman> I wonder if they knew HPOW had all the stocks on the move
[08:09] <deac> txn +.89 mot +.86 nok +1.47
[08:10] <deac> emc negative looks like on briefing via mlco
[08:10] <lx2> 8:06am 09/11/01 [GS] GOLDMAN SACHS UPPED TO 'STRONG BUY' AT LEHMAN BROS.
[08:10] <deac> generals all about +.30 on nas except qcom +1
[08:13] <deac> arba has huge short interest somebody knew the news early yest
[08:13] <deac> amat 40.36 bid
[08:13] <WallStArb> no one reall cares about ARBA
[08:13] <WallStArb> really
[08:14] <deac> k
[08:14] <WallStArb> its +30 cents
[08:14] <WallStArb> and a $2 stock
[08:14] <WallStArb> 08:13 Matrix Pharm (MATX) 6.79: FDA panel voted unanimously that, based on a standard approval scenario, company not demonstrated substantial evidence that IntraDose Injectable Gel is safe and effective in the treatment of symptomatic recurrent head and neck cancer.
[08:14] <WallStArb> MATX pretty bad
[08:14] <k7> ARBA bid 2.5, closed at 2.03
[08:14] <WallStArb> ARBA 2.30
[08:15] <meebbie> gm
[08:15] <WallStArb> QQQ position feels good today
[08:16] <WallStArb> very strong
[08:16] <WallStArb> By John Seward Of DOW JONES NEWSWIRES (This report was originally published late Monday.)
[08:16] <WallStArb> SAN FRANCISCO (Dow Jones)Flextronics International Ltd. (FLEX) Chief Executive Michael E. Marks told investors Monday to expect the contract electronics maker to produce record revenue in its second and third fiscal quarters.
[08:16] <WallStArb> "We expect next year to be a really big year" as well, Marks said at an investors' conference hosted by Banc of America Securities LLC.
[08:16] <deac> jdsu 68k at 6.35
[08:18] <deac> semi news not real good with newp vtss
[08:18] <WallStArb> Futures pullback
[08:18] <NadaClue> 14,0 7:18 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1101.75  3,0 +6 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1385.5  3,0 +15 
[08:18] <WallStArb> XLNX VTSS NEWP bad news
[08:18] <WallStArb> but market wants to rally
[08:18] <Commonman> If there's a day for a JDSU squeeze, it better be today when they cut the target to 6
[08:18] <Commonman> 07:48 ET Salomon Cuts Telecom : Salomon Smith Barney downgrades the following telecom equipment companies (price target changes in parentheses): to OUTPERFORM from Buy: PMCS (50 to 32); to NEUTRAL from Buy: VTSS (28.50 to 10) and JDSU (15 to 6); to NEUTRAL from OUTPERFORM: CIEN (25 to 16), JNPR (35 to 15), GLW (17 to 10). Firm reiterates BUY on AMCC, but cuts target from $30 to $20.
[08:18] <verona> what are newp sympaties?
[08:19] <DezertRat> who cut JDSU to 6 ?
[08:19] <deac> so with nok ramp it's a telecom squeeze csco etc
[08:19] <Commonman> Salomon waiting til we hit bottom to reset targets
[08:20] <AnnaInVA> lol
[08:20] <Commonman> That's what I call upping their odds of being correct, since JDSU already hit 6
[08:20] <AnnaInVA> truly
[08:20] <Commonman> How about cutting CIEN to 16 when it was 70 in April?
[08:20] <Commonman> I think that would have been valuable information to some people
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[08:22] <deac> beas 13.56 bid internets strong yest
[08:23] <deac> jumping jnpr
[08:25] <WallStArb> Fuel cell stocks look like they are starting
[08:25] <WallStArb> yesterday we had accumulation and late day pops on many
[08:25] <WallStArb> that sector on my watch
[08:25] <MikeW222> futures
[08:25] <NadaClue> 14,0 7:25 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1102  3,0 +6.25 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1386  3,0 +15.5 
[08:26] <WallStArb> QQQ +.50
[08:26] <WallStArb> ]q QQQ
[08:26] <NadaClue> 3,0QQQ 12,0(nasdaq 100 trust)14 AMEX  12,0 8:26 AM - 34.48  1,0 34.483 x1,0 34.51  3,0 +0.38 1,0(3,0 +1.11%  1,0)1,0,C/O 34.1/01,0 H/L 34.31/34.702,0 av.v&(V) 0M(0M) AH14,0 unch (14 unch )
[08:26] <Gtrader> please, what are the fuel cells stocks symbols?
[08:26] <WallStArb> PLUG
[08:26] <WallStArb> CPST
[08:26] <WallStArb> BLDP
[08:26] <Jena> ]q qqq
[08:26] <NadaClue> 3,0QQQ 12,0(nasdaq 100 trust)14 AMEX  12,0 8:26 AM - 34.48  1,0 34.483 x1,0 34.49  3,0 +0.38 1,0(3,0 +1.11%  1,0)1,0,C/O 34.1/01,0 H/L 34.31/34.702,0 av.v&(V) 0M(0M) AH14,0 unch (14 unch )
[08:26] <WallStArb> HPOW
[08:26] <WallStArb> BCON
[08:26] <WallStArb> APWR
[08:26] <Gtrader> thank you
[08:27] <WallStArb> FCEL
[08:27] <Labowner> SATC another one
[08:27] <StephenB> PRTN too
[08:27] <lx2> SEBL looking nice
[08:28] <Marginman2> acpw
[08:28] <DezertRat> what exactly is perking interest in fuel cells?
[08:29] <WallStArb> Maybe higher oil prices expected for winter
[08:29] <WallStArb> but I got a sector alert yesterday
[08:29] <Ex_trim> ..
[08:30] <deac> middle east trouble increased yest
[08:30] <WallStArb> that might be part of it
[08:30] <lx2> bull day ahead?
[08:30] <finch> is there a fuel cell conference somewhere?
[08:30] <bucko> here ya go
[08:30] <WallStArb> but I noticed strength across almost all the sector
[08:30] <bucko> DJN: DJ CIBC's Holman: Power Tech Stks In Process Of Bottoming
[08:30] <bucko> (Dow Jones 09/11 08:30:17)
[08:30] <lx2> or will it fizzle?
[08:31] <R> Is BCON a valid fuel cell play...lay it on the line yes or no, yes I am long, but if it is not a valid play I will sell, opinions please , tia
[08:31] <bucko> NEW YORK (Dow Jones)--Power-technology stocks, battered amid a technology
[08:31] <bucko> selloff across the board, are in the process of touching bottom, CIBC World
[08:31] <bucko> Markets analyst Hugh Holman told CNBC Tuesday.
[08:31] <bucko> Among Holman's picks are energy generator Calpine Corp. (CPN) and
[08:31] <bucko> electrochemical-technology specialist FuellCell Energy (FCEL).
[08:31] <deac> toplist shows they love the pennies- it's probably because so many are down to low amt of $ in accts
[08:31] <WallStArb> BCON traders like it occasionally
[08:31] <WallStArb> but I'd stick to the better known names
[08:31] <WallStArb> like BLDP
[08:31] <WallStArb> PLUG
[08:31] <WallStArb> FCEL
[08:31] <WallStArb> CPST
[08:31] <R> thx Wally, appreciate it
[08:32] <jd43> good morning all
[08:33] <t1> JACKSON, Miss.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 11, 2001--Cal-Maine Foods,
[08:33] <t1> Inc. (Nasdaq:CALM) announced that at a special meeting of its Board of
[08:33] <t1> Directors held Monday, September 10, 2001, the Directors unanimously
[08:33] <t1> voted to explore the possibility of the Company becoming privately
[08:33] <t1> held.
[08:34] <lx2> 8:32am 09/11/01 [GS] GOLDMAN SACHS CUT TO 'MARKET PERFORM' AT FIRST UNION
[08:35] <liz> good morning
[08:36] <BigPerm> 01/09/11 07:30 C 2542942 Microsoft to Deliver Macromedia Flash Player 5 With Windows XP Companies (
[08:36] <jd43> good morning liz,is this slow normal
[08:37] <WallStArb> An online advertising report from Internet and ebusiness statistics provider eMarketer, citing data from more than 50 research organizations, forecasts that online advertising spending will rise to $7.6 billion by the end of 2001, up 7% from the $7.1 billion spent in 2000.
[08:37] <WallStArb> For 2002, the report forecasts online advertising expenditure of $10.3 billion.
[08:37] <WallStArb> Asked if Yahoo wouldn't suffer from falling online advertising prices due to the slowing economy, Mallett said, "We deliver high quality services and have competitive Web advertisement prices." The group would therefore benefit from the growing online advertising market next year, he said, but didn't elaborate.
[08:38] <^Eagle^> Intel believes the Bluetooth specification and 802.11b are complementary technologies that address different wireless needs and will coexist in many environments)."
[08:38] <^Eagle^> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/5/21556.html
[08:38] <Light> there are now only 47 firms in all with price/sales ratios higher than 10. There are 4,167 stocks with more than $100 million in revenue. This means only 1 percent of stocks now have price/sales ratios greater than 10. No stock of scale has a price/sales ratio higher than 50.
[08:38] <BigPerm> PRESS RELEASE:Motorola Computer Expands Existing OEM Pacts
[08:39] <BigPerm> The agreement covers a broad range of embedded Ethernet products:
[08:39] <BigPerm> switches, adapters and PMC/PIM modules for CompactPCI chassis plus LAN
[08:39] <BigPerm> cards for the PCI bus. As part of the agreement, the OEM'ed products
[08:39] <BigPerm> will carry Motorola brand customizations, receive Motorola part
[08:39] <BigPerm> numbers and be sold through Motorola product catalogs. Some of these
[08:39] <BigPerm> products have been jointly engineered to contain special features or
[08:39] <BigPerm> configurations unique to Motorola Computer Group.
[08:40] <Light> eBay remains as the lone survivor untouched by the secular trend of a return to traditional valuations. Today, at a price/sales ratio of 25 and a price/earnings ratio of 180, it stands as a stubborn reminder of the bubble era valuations. Although it can rightfully claim to be the only real new business model ever invented on the internet, it is still grossly overvalued for its investment results.
[08:40] <Light> per briefing
[08:41] <sheywhite> '
[08:41] <DezertRat> hehe an all out attack on eBay
[08:43] <Commonman> Oh my God, now Soundview is cutting JDSU and others to
[08:43] <Commonman> 08:40 ET SoundView Cuts Telecom : Hearing from sources at SoundView Technology that the firm is downgrading several telecom equipment names this morning: JDSU to HOLD from Strong Buy, sees downside risk to $4-5.50 and cuts FY02 estimate to a loss of $0.04 from a profit of $0.06; NT to HOLD from Buy, sees downside to $4, FY02 goes to a loss of $0.44 from a profit of $0.02; OCPI to HOLD from Buy.
[08:43] <Commonman> Shameless scum
[08:43] <Commonman> JDSU drops from 180 and two firms on the same day set targets below today's price
[08:43] <craigk2> boy, he is early to the game
[08:43] <ferrari> MATX have anything else in the pipeline or is it R.I.P.
[08:43] <craigk2> where has he been on mars?
[08:44] <DezertRat> wowo JDSU could go to $4 they say
[08:44] <Puma> new cnbc chief economist marci is nice
[08:44] <Bondzz> who did she replace?
[08:44] <Puma> new role
[08:44] <Bondzz> thx
[08:44] <CIAP> When they do this, it means the bottom is near.
[08:44] <Puma> she got a phd
[08:44] <Commonman> I always thought that was possible, but I didn't think these guys would choose now to pull back the curtain and show the Wizard of OZ
[08:44] <Commonman> that's almost treason
[08:45] <Puma> lo
[08:45] <Puma> marci will teach greenie a thing or two
[08:46] <JohnD9073> I think the prior chief economist wat Carrot Top. He got a better gig though.
[08:46] <Puma> marci is cuter
[08:47] <Puma> marci reminds me of a young version of maria
[08:47] <lx2> 8:46am 09/11/01 [THQI] THQ IN PACT TO DEVELOP GAMES FEATURING BRITNEY SPEARS
[08:47] <Puma> cool!
[08:48] <AbsolutTrading> Good morning all
[08:48] <lisa> gm
[08:48] <WallStArb> SONE waning?
[08:49] <Irish3> Is Kathleen Tanzy gone ?
[08:49] <WallStArb1> 01/09/11 08:47 BT DJN: *DJ S1 Sees 3Q Loss 53c-54c A Share, 4Q Loss 38c-41c A Share
[08:49] <WallStArb1> 01/09/11 08:46 BT DJN: *DJ S1 Sees 2001 Rev $277M-$279M Vs Prior $275M-$285M View
[08:49] <WallStArb1> 01/09/11 08:41 BT DJN: +DJ S1 Corp. Sees 2001 Loss $3.21-$3.25 A Share >SONE
[08:49] <WallStArb> ]w SONE
[08:49] <bucko> whats with the spoos
[08:49] <NadaClue> 12,0 SONE whisper number: 3,0 N/A  consensus: 4,0 ($0.57)  earn date: 10/30/01 1,0yahoo earn date: July 31, 2001
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[08:49] <Segman> futures slowly losing it
[08:49] <WallStArb> Wow
[08:49] <NadaClue> 14,0 7:49 1,0 SP500 9,0| 14,0 ESU1  1096.25  3,0 +0.5 0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1376  3,0 +5.5 
[08:49] <WallStArb> Totally lost it
[08:49] <lisa> yes, why is it
[08:49] <bucko> spoos red now
[08:49] <ferrari> what happened to futures
[08:49] <ferrari> news?
[08:50] <NadaClue> 14,0 7:49 1,0 SP500 4,0| 14,0 ESU1  1095.5  4,0 -0.25  0,0.. 1,0 NDX  9,0| 14,0 NQU1  1373  3,0 +2.5 
[08:50] * Yogibear101 good morning
[08:50] <CIAP> GOLD is spiking strongly.
[08:50] <Axel> any news?
[08:50] <k7> NAZ futures red
[08:50] <JohnD9073> gotta love it
[08:50] <appman> bomb blast word trade
[08:50] <Labowner> OMG
[08:50] <mauimark> oh my gawd
[08:50] <Axel> any news?
[08:50] <NadaClue> 14,0 7:50 1,0 SP500 4,0| 14,0 ESU1  1095.25  4,0 -0.5  0,0.. 1,0 NDX  4,0| 14,0 NQU1  1369  4,0 -1.5 
[08:50] <Puma> cnbc: bomb on World Trade Tower
[08:50] <^maxim^> lol rallies are sold even premarket..
[08:50] <DezertRat> oh my gawd
[08:50] <mauimark> plane hit it?
[08:50] <locust> plane hit world trade center ?
[08:50] <Puma> cnbc: bomb on World Trade Tower ... terrorists?
[08:50] <Puma> .... plane hit it
[08:51] <bobby44> should affect futs
[08:51] <Puma> according to cnbc
[08:51] <bucko> DJN: *DJ CORRECT:Plane Hits NYC's World Trade Ctr,Not Fincl Ctr
[08:51] <bucko> (Dow Jones 09/11 08:50:52)
[08:51] <bobby44> sorry shouldnt
[08:51] <bucko> buying qqq's
[08:51] <DezertRat> CNN said 737
[08:51] <bobby44> should not affect it
[08:51] <Photon> That's what wacked the Futs... they thought terrorism
[08:51] <ferrari> buying opp
[08:51] <DezertRat> a 737 hit world trade center
[08:51] <mauimark> how can a plane hit it in broad daylite
[08:51] <Puma> lo
[08:51] <StephenB> ohhhh
[08:51] <locust> kamikaze
[08:51] <Scorp^> on purpose mauimark - never know
[08:51] <ferrari> futures right back up
[08:51] <Puma> its saddam
[08:51] <mauimark> oh my gawd
[08:52] <bucko> DJN: *DJ Plane Crashes Into World Trade Center - CNN
[08:52] <bucko> (Dow Jones 09/11 08:52:17)
[08:52] <Mr-Fast-Eddie-2U> CNN confirming plane hit
[08:52] <locust> during WW2 a bomber flew into some building n NYC as well
[08:52] <bobby44> empire state ww2
[08:52] <Yogibear101> empire state building
[08:52] <Puma> World trade center damaged; unconfirmed reports say a plane has crashed into tower. Details to come.
[08:52] <ripvanw> that was Eimpire State
[08:52] <AbsolutTrading> Loook wow
[08:52] <lisa> is it effect market?
[08:53] <Yogibear101> that HAD to be intentional
[08:53] <AbsolutTrading> World trade Center
[08:53] <Scorp^> probably worked there
[08:53] <Puma> massive HOLD in world trade center
[08:53] <Puma> HOLE
[08:53] <Puma> on cnbc
[08:53] <Puma> geez, it looks bad
[08:53] <Mas> where's the plane ?
[08:54] <Puma> inside the tower, it seems
[08:54] <Scorp^> what type of plane ?
[08:54] <Puma> 737?
[08:54] <DezertRat> MSNBC said plane is embedded in top floors
[08:54] <Yogibear101> wonder if it was a broker?
[08:54] <git> cnn ..person saying explosion from inside..hmm
[08:55] <Ingo> Hi
[08:55] <craigk2> this had to be terrorist attack
[08:55] <StephenB> another witness said "large commericial plane" on CNN Headl