Novos mínimos a caminho (NOVO TÓPICO)
Antes do Midas muitos já antecipavam isto e nao estiveram do lado errado do mercado.
Ainda me lembro do phneutral e do Enslaved a anteciparem o fundo de Março de 2009 e dizerem que ia subir no minimo até a zona dos 1000-1200 num espaço de 9 meses, e depois começar novamente uma queda a sério.
O Midas ao contrário dos outros virou foi bearish muito antes do tempo, em Abril se não me engano...
Ainda me lembro do phneutral e do Enslaved a anteciparem o fundo de Março de 2009 e dizerem que ia subir no minimo até a zona dos 1000-1200 num espaço de 9 meses, e depois começar novamente uma queda a sério.
O Midas ao contrário dos outros virou foi bearish muito antes do tempo, em Abril se não me engano...
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É verdade que o Midas foi maltratado, mas não concordo que quem tenha estado 1 ano do lado errado do mercado possa ter razão. As previsões que efectuamos só estão correctas se o timing for adequado. Caso contrário, estar certo antes de tempo pode sair muito caro - contra mim falo, estive bear durante vários meses de 2009 e todo o ano de 2010, e paguei por isso. Agora os shorts alavancados estão a compensar, mas nem por isso penso que até aqui a minha análise tenha estado correcta.
E apesar da FED estar (temporariamente?) em stand-by, também penso que é cedo para afirmar que o bull market / bear market rally já tenha acabado. Ainda nem sequer fizemos um lower low (<1044.50) nem um fecho abaixo da SMA/EMA 200 e já está tudo a desfraldar a bandeira branca. Estamos a negociar aos níveis de Novembro/Dezembro 2009, e nessa altura não vi qualquer pessimismo, bem pelo contrário.
E apesar da FED estar (temporariamente?) em stand-by, também penso que é cedo para afirmar que o bull market / bear market rally já tenha acabado. Ainda nem sequer fizemos um lower low (<1044.50) nem um fecho abaixo da SMA/EMA 200 e já está tudo a desfraldar a bandeira branca. Estamos a negociar aos níveis de Novembro/Dezembro 2009, e nessa altura não vi qualquer pessimismo, bem pelo contrário.
jeuros Escreveu:Sim, o Midas tinha razão mas é assim o que o Midas queria tambem era tar sempre a contrariar o sentido actual do mercado...em abril,maio,junho, e ate julho ou mais o Midas dizia isto vai cair...mas no fim, nao sei ao certo quantos %'s depois la acertou lol.
Seria bastante bom voltar a ver 1 comentario desse SRº e de mais alguns que por aqui passaram.
Quando as pessoas educadas são maltratadas diariamente, resta-lhes a decisão de se afastarem para não correrem o risco de responderem à letra.
É que estar nos mercados com seriedade, signica não a sua adivinhação mas, e como o Midas o faz, o seu estudo. E se bem repararam, ele foi tentando estar do lado certo do mercado, mesmo tendo a percepção que as políticas de "salvamento" estavam erradas e que redundariam naquilo que agora está a acontecer.
Mas...nada é imutável e às vezes os milagres existem. Só que sem a "maozinha" da FED...é quase impossível. E como parece que as máquinas de fazer dólares estão cansadas...e como parece que os estados estão mesmo a falir...o que poderá vir aí?
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Sim, o Midas tinha razão mas é assim o que o Midas queria tambem era tar sempre a contrariar o sentido actual do mercado...em abril,maio,junho, e ate julho ou mais o Midas dizia isto vai cair...mas no fim, nao sei ao certo quantos %'s depois la acertou lol.
Seria bastante bom voltar a ver 1 comentario desse SRº e de mais alguns que por aqui passaram.
Seria bastante bom voltar a ver 1 comentario desse SRº e de mais alguns que por aqui passaram.
El mercado entra en la segunda fase de la crisis
Subscrevo na íntegra este artigo do Cárpatos. Já agora, parabéns ao Midas, que sempre aqui defendeu esta mesma visão: a subida é artificial e, quando acabarem os estímulos, chegará a hora da verdade.
El mercado entra en la segunda fase de la crisis
Cárpatos - 08/05/2010
Jacques Chirac y Lionel Jospin quedaron como candidatos a la presidencia de Francia en la segunda vuelta. Después de celebrarse un debate televisado, Lionel Jospin le dijo a Chirac, "que gane el mejor", a lo que Chirac respondió, "gracias."
No era la modestia la principal virtud de Chirac. En las Bolsas puede que pase lo mismo. Puede que, como cada mañana antes de empezar, los bandos contrarios, alcistas y bajistas, se hayan dicho "que gane el mejor", pero los bajistas hayan dicho "gracias". ¿Falta de modestia? Puede que simplemente la certeza de que cada día se iba a bajar, porque hemos entrado en la fase II de la crisis, la fase de la deuda soberana.
Es momento de recordar las excelentes predicciones de Teun Draaisma que hemos comentado muchas veces en esta columna. Hace mucho dijo que la media de subida de la Bolsa tras una crisis como la registrada era de 71%, y así pasó, al calor de las medidas de apoyo. Luego advirtió que en cuanto los mercados vieran que se levantaban las medidas se iniciaría la bajada, y aquí la tenemos...
Es el momento de salir de la libertad provisional. Hemos subido el 71% con una pena pendiente de cumplir, la de la deuda enorme asumida por los Estados para salvar la fase I de la crisis. Ahora entramos en la fase II, y es el momento de cumplir la condena. Los Estados salvaron a las empresas, pero ahora no hay nadie arriba de los Estados para salvarles, salvo aparición de alguna civilización alienígena que nos preste dinero, algo que de momento no se ve. Los operadores se quejan de falta de tacto el jueves del BCE. En momentos de pánico es bueno tener un poco de don de gentes, y la aparición de Trichet no fue un ejemplo de meterse a los mercados en el bolsillo precisamente. La Fed suele ser mucho más hábil en estas cosas.
Estamos de nuevo con riesgo sistémico como en 2008, y seguramente el BCE va a tener que tomar medidas urgentes, vía compra de deuda o de otro modo; de lo contrario los mercados le forzarán a hacerlo como ya hicieron con Grecia, o con cualquiera que se les ponga por delante. No perdamos tampoco de vista la burbuja china, que empieza a pincharse.
Desde el punto de vista técnico, finalmente las medias de 200 semanas de Dow y S&P, que coincidían con los retrocesos de Fibonacci del 61,8% de toda la tendencia bajista, han sido decisivas como barrera, como nos temíamos.
En Europa, como podemos ver en el gráfico de arriba, el futuro del Euro Stoxx escapa por la parte baja del largo movimiento lateral de meses. Primer soporte en 2.400, siguiente en 2.250, a la altura de los retrocesos de Fibonacci del 50 y 61,8% de todo el gran tramo de subida anterior. Las instituciones desde hace varios días están vendedoras. Tendencia bajista por tanto, y no se debe ir contra tendencia, está fuera de cuestión complicarse la vida con la Bolsa. La volatilidad es altísima y podemos ver disparates tanto al alza como a la baja.
El mercado entra en la segunda fase de la crisis
Cárpatos - 08/05/2010
Jacques Chirac y Lionel Jospin quedaron como candidatos a la presidencia de Francia en la segunda vuelta. Después de celebrarse un debate televisado, Lionel Jospin le dijo a Chirac, "que gane el mejor", a lo que Chirac respondió, "gracias."
No era la modestia la principal virtud de Chirac. En las Bolsas puede que pase lo mismo. Puede que, como cada mañana antes de empezar, los bandos contrarios, alcistas y bajistas, se hayan dicho "que gane el mejor", pero los bajistas hayan dicho "gracias". ¿Falta de modestia? Puede que simplemente la certeza de que cada día se iba a bajar, porque hemos entrado en la fase II de la crisis, la fase de la deuda soberana.
Es momento de recordar las excelentes predicciones de Teun Draaisma que hemos comentado muchas veces en esta columna. Hace mucho dijo que la media de subida de la Bolsa tras una crisis como la registrada era de 71%, y así pasó, al calor de las medidas de apoyo. Luego advirtió que en cuanto los mercados vieran que se levantaban las medidas se iniciaría la bajada, y aquí la tenemos...
Es el momento de salir de la libertad provisional. Hemos subido el 71% con una pena pendiente de cumplir, la de la deuda enorme asumida por los Estados para salvar la fase I de la crisis. Ahora entramos en la fase II, y es el momento de cumplir la condena. Los Estados salvaron a las empresas, pero ahora no hay nadie arriba de los Estados para salvarles, salvo aparición de alguna civilización alienígena que nos preste dinero, algo que de momento no se ve. Los operadores se quejan de falta de tacto el jueves del BCE. En momentos de pánico es bueno tener un poco de don de gentes, y la aparición de Trichet no fue un ejemplo de meterse a los mercados en el bolsillo precisamente. La Fed suele ser mucho más hábil en estas cosas.
Estamos de nuevo con riesgo sistémico como en 2008, y seguramente el BCE va a tener que tomar medidas urgentes, vía compra de deuda o de otro modo; de lo contrario los mercados le forzarán a hacerlo como ya hicieron con Grecia, o con cualquiera que se les ponga por delante. No perdamos tampoco de vista la burbuja china, que empieza a pincharse.
Desde el punto de vista técnico, finalmente las medias de 200 semanas de Dow y S&P, que coincidían con los retrocesos de Fibonacci del 61,8% de toda la tendencia bajista, han sido decisivas como barrera, como nos temíamos.
En Europa, como podemos ver en el gráfico de arriba, el futuro del Euro Stoxx escapa por la parte baja del largo movimiento lateral de meses. Primer soporte en 2.400, siguiente en 2.250, a la altura de los retrocesos de Fibonacci del 50 y 61,8% de todo el gran tramo de subida anterior. Las instituciones desde hace varios días están vendedoras. Tendencia bajista por tanto, y no se debe ir contra tendencia, está fuera de cuestión complicarse la vida con la Bolsa. La volatilidad es altísima y podemos ver disparates tanto al alza como a la baja.
URSO
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Bank Risk Soars to Record, Default Swaps Overtake Lehman Crisis
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By Abigail Moses
May 7 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of insuring against losses on European bank bonds soared to a record, surpassing levels triggered by the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., as the sovereign debt crisis deepened.
The Markit iTraxx Financial Index of credit-default swaps on 25 banks and insurers soared as much as 40 basis points to 223, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The index closed at 212 basis points March 9, 2009. Swaps on Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy rose to or near all-time high levels.
Credit risk rose for a sixth day on concern the Greek debt crisis is spiraling out of control and triggering concern banks may face losses on their sovereign bond holdings. The Group of Seven plans to hold a conference call today to discuss the turmoil, after a global stock rout that briefly erased more than $1 trillion in U.S. market value.
“Financials are caught in a really bad place right now,” said Aziz Sunderji, a London-based credit strategist at Barclays Capital. “Investors are selling bonds, not just hedging with CDS. It shows investors are repositioning portfolios and there’s a more long-term repricing of peripheral risk.”
Pacific Investment Management Co.’s Mohamed El-Erian and Loomis Sayles & Co.’s Dan Fuss said Europe’s crisis may spread across the globe because of investor concern that governments have borrowed too much to revive their economies.
Portugal, Spain
Markit’s financial gauge was trading at 193 basis points at 11 a.m. in London, according to JPMorgan. Contracts on Spanish and Portuguese banks rose to records, according to CMA DataVision prices. Portugal’s Banco Comercial Portugues SA increased 63 basis points to 589 and Spain’s Banco Santander SA rose 18 basis points to 259.
In the U.K., swaps on Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc jumped 43.5 to 231.5 after Britain’s biggest government-owned bank posted the only first-quarter loss among British rivals.
The spread between the three-month dollar London interbank offered rate and the overnight indexed swap rate, a barometer of the reluctance of banks to lend that’s known as the Libor-OIS spread, is at 11.5 basis points, up from 6 basis points on March 15 and near the highest level in more than five months. It’s still far from the record 364 basis points in October 2008, almost a month after Lehman’s bankruptcy.
Swaps on Greece surged 75 basis points to 1,008 before the advance was pared to 964, Portugal climbed 42 to 502 before cutting its increase to 461 and Italy rose 24 to 255.5 before trading at 238.5. Spain increased 14 to 288 before falling to 269, CMA prices show.
British Swaps
Contracts on the U.K. rose 8 basis points to 99, according to CMA. Britain’s election produced a parliament without a majority for the first time since 1974, stoking concern the new government will be too weak to rein in its record budget deficit.
European policy makers are under mounting pressure from investors and foreign officials to broaden their response to the Greek fiscal crisis after a 110 billion euro ($140 billion) bailout package failed to ease concerns.
“We do not see a clear sign that markets will calm down in the absence of decisive action by authorities, which so far have ignored the opportunity to convince investors that they are capable of battling the European sovereign debt crisis,” Markus Ernst, a credit strategist at UniCredit SpA in Munich, wrote in a note to investors.
Merkel Meeting
German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other euro region governments are set to arrive in Brussels about 6:15 p.m. local time for a summit called five days ago to draw “conclusions” from the Greek crisis. The final press conference is slated for 10 p.m.
The cost of insuring against losses on corporate bonds also rose. Contracts on the Markit iTraxx Crossover Index linked to 50 companies with mostly high-yield credit ratings increased as much as 74 basis points to 625, JPMorgan prices show, the highest since September. The index pared its advance to 597.
The Markit iTraxx Europe Index of 125 companies with investment-grade ratings climbed as much as 29.5 basis points to 152.5, JPMorgan prices show, the highest since April 2009. It was trading at 134.
A basis point on a credit-default swap contract protecting 10 million euros of debt from default for five years is equivalent to 1,000 euros a year.
Credit-default swaps pay the buyer face value in exchange for the underlying securities or the cash equivalent should a company fail to adhere to its debt agreements. An increase signals deterioration in perceptions of credit quality.
The extra yield investors demand to own investment grade corporate bonds rather than government debt jumped 21 basis points from last week to 174, the largest weekly rise in a year, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch index data. The gauge has also increased 10 basis points from yesterday, the biggest one-day increase since October 2008.
To contact the reporter on this story: Abigail Moses in London at Amoses5@bloomberg.net
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By Abigail Moses
May 7 (Bloomberg) -- The cost of insuring against losses on European bank bonds soared to a record, surpassing levels triggered by the collapse of Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc., as the sovereign debt crisis deepened.
The Markit iTraxx Financial Index of credit-default swaps on 25 banks and insurers soared as much as 40 basis points to 223, according to JPMorgan Chase & Co. The index closed at 212 basis points March 9, 2009. Swaps on Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy rose to or near all-time high levels.
Credit risk rose for a sixth day on concern the Greek debt crisis is spiraling out of control and triggering concern banks may face losses on their sovereign bond holdings. The Group of Seven plans to hold a conference call today to discuss the turmoil, after a global stock rout that briefly erased more than $1 trillion in U.S. market value.
“Financials are caught in a really bad place right now,” said Aziz Sunderji, a London-based credit strategist at Barclays Capital. “Investors are selling bonds, not just hedging with CDS. It shows investors are repositioning portfolios and there’s a more long-term repricing of peripheral risk.”
Pacific Investment Management Co.’s Mohamed El-Erian and Loomis Sayles & Co.’s Dan Fuss said Europe’s crisis may spread across the globe because of investor concern that governments have borrowed too much to revive their economies.
Portugal, Spain
Markit’s financial gauge was trading at 193 basis points at 11 a.m. in London, according to JPMorgan. Contracts on Spanish and Portuguese banks rose to records, according to CMA DataVision prices. Portugal’s Banco Comercial Portugues SA increased 63 basis points to 589 and Spain’s Banco Santander SA rose 18 basis points to 259.
In the U.K., swaps on Royal Bank of Scotland Group Plc jumped 43.5 to 231.5 after Britain’s biggest government-owned bank posted the only first-quarter loss among British rivals.
The spread between the three-month dollar London interbank offered rate and the overnight indexed swap rate, a barometer of the reluctance of banks to lend that’s known as the Libor-OIS spread, is at 11.5 basis points, up from 6 basis points on March 15 and near the highest level in more than five months. It’s still far from the record 364 basis points in October 2008, almost a month after Lehman’s bankruptcy.
Swaps on Greece surged 75 basis points to 1,008 before the advance was pared to 964, Portugal climbed 42 to 502 before cutting its increase to 461 and Italy rose 24 to 255.5 before trading at 238.5. Spain increased 14 to 288 before falling to 269, CMA prices show.
British Swaps
Contracts on the U.K. rose 8 basis points to 99, according to CMA. Britain’s election produced a parliament without a majority for the first time since 1974, stoking concern the new government will be too weak to rein in its record budget deficit.
European policy makers are under mounting pressure from investors and foreign officials to broaden their response to the Greek fiscal crisis after a 110 billion euro ($140 billion) bailout package failed to ease concerns.
“We do not see a clear sign that markets will calm down in the absence of decisive action by authorities, which so far have ignored the opportunity to convince investors that they are capable of battling the European sovereign debt crisis,” Markus Ernst, a credit strategist at UniCredit SpA in Munich, wrote in a note to investors.
Merkel Meeting
German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other euro region governments are set to arrive in Brussels about 6:15 p.m. local time for a summit called five days ago to draw “conclusions” from the Greek crisis. The final press conference is slated for 10 p.m.
The cost of insuring against losses on corporate bonds also rose. Contracts on the Markit iTraxx Crossover Index linked to 50 companies with mostly high-yield credit ratings increased as much as 74 basis points to 625, JPMorgan prices show, the highest since September. The index pared its advance to 597.
The Markit iTraxx Europe Index of 125 companies with investment-grade ratings climbed as much as 29.5 basis points to 152.5, JPMorgan prices show, the highest since April 2009. It was trading at 134.
A basis point on a credit-default swap contract protecting 10 million euros of debt from default for five years is equivalent to 1,000 euros a year.
Credit-default swaps pay the buyer face value in exchange for the underlying securities or the cash equivalent should a company fail to adhere to its debt agreements. An increase signals deterioration in perceptions of credit quality.
The extra yield investors demand to own investment grade corporate bonds rather than government debt jumped 21 basis points from last week to 174, the largest weekly rise in a year, according to Bank of America Merrill Lynch index data. The gauge has also increased 10 basis points from yesterday, the biggest one-day increase since October 2008.
To contact the reporter on this story: Abigail Moses in London at Amoses5@bloomberg.net
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mi s&p 500 - May.07
Muito interessante o cenário futuro se me afigura. Segundo "rdo*Waves" estaremos (já)na fase que antecede um movimento consistente de subida. Os 1116 são agora a fronteira deste (possível) cenário.
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corvo_47 Escreveu:Bem,só uma excepção para um dia que não acontece todos os dias.
Um abraço.
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Mestre corvo.
Sinceramente foi incrivel o dia de ontem. Que precisao nessa ltd.
Estive tentado a entrar nos 1070 quando reagiu mas com tamanha queda, limitei-me a observar, estupefacto.
Recorri ao grafico semanal, coisa que ja nao fazia algum tempo, para analisar "este erro humano".

Por falar em patos, sinto-me como um, que vai prestes para o forno. Embriagado, sem orientação, prestes a ser levado para a guilhotina.

Imagino a limpeza de stops.
Acho que vou fazer como tu: vou voltar para as minhas mini-ferias, embora embora a espreguiçadeira esteja enxarcada, com a chuva de hoje nestas zonas.
Olhando para os graficos vejo isto: possivel HS ou simplesmente uma miragem?

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corvo_47 Escreveu:....
* Entretanto acho que vou meter uma férias , no que se refere a foruns de bolsa (não na bolsa). Espero que sejam curtas.
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Bem,só uma excepção para um dia que não acontece todos os dias.
Um abraço.
Mais musica

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"Nunca te é dado um desejo, sem te ser dada a capacidade de o realizares. Contudo poderás ter que lutar por ele" Richard Bach "in Ilusões"
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Não acredito que foi erro, quando a queda acelarou, já perdíamos mais de 4% há algum tempo, já o EUR-USD estava a cair fortemente...
De qualquer forma a pergunta que fica é quem é que tem coragem de estar longo esta sexta-feira e pior, ficar com posições longas no fim de semana????
Pois pela mais que provavel resposta que vos passou pela cabeça já sabem o que esperar...
Boa sorte
De qualquer forma a pergunta que fica é quem é que tem coragem de estar longo esta sexta-feira e pior, ficar com posições longas no fim de semana????
Pois pela mais que provavel resposta que vos passou pela cabeça já sabem o que esperar...
Boa sorte
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DE ASSUSTAR... e o mal é que tem razão
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Gerald Celente hoje (no fim fala do "suposto" erro):
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---Tudo o que for por mim escrito expressa apenas a minha opinião pessoal e não é uma recomendação de investimento de qualquer tipo---
https://twitter.com/JCSTrendTrading
"We can confidently predict yesterdays price. Everything else is unknown."
"Every trade is a test"
"Price is the aggregation of everyone's expectations"
"I don't define a good trade as a trade that makes money. I define a good trade as a trade where I did the right thing". (Trend Follower Kevin Bruce, $5000 to $100.000.000 in 25 years).
https://twitter.com/JCSTrendTrading
"We can confidently predict yesterdays price. Everything else is unknown."
"Every trade is a test"
"Price is the aggregation of everyone's expectations"
"I don't define a good trade as a trade that makes money. I define a good trade as a trade where I did the right thing". (Trend Follower Kevin Bruce, $5000 to $100.000.000 in 25 years).
mi s&p 500 - May.06 -update3
Após várias tentativas os 1158 foram a fronteira Bull/Bear, referenciada atempadamente pelo "rdo*Waves". A recuperação até ao "ponto 1" não valida (ainda) uma onda Bull.
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Olhem, eu nem sabia de nada, hoje é um dia em que não consigo mesmo acompanhar isto...
Erro humano, hummm?! não sei até que ponto dizer que foi erro humano não é uma foram de evitar que os mercados entrem em pânico?! lembro-me de situações em que se falou de erro humano e passado pouco tempo os mercados (ou um título) cotava bem abaixo dos valores que atingiram pelo suposto erro! Por isso tenho sempre dúvidas destas coisas, como é se pode errar com tanto dinheiro?! Se alguém errou realmente originou perdas brutais...
abraço
artista
Erro humano, hummm?! não sei até que ponto dizer que foi erro humano não é uma foram de evitar que os mercados entrem em pânico?! lembro-me de situações em que se falou de erro humano e passado pouco tempo os mercados (ou um título) cotava bem abaixo dos valores que atingiram pelo suposto erro! Por isso tenho sempre dúvidas destas coisas, como é se pode errar com tanto dinheiro?! Se alguém errou realmente originou perdas brutais...
abraço
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Futures
Last Change Settle
Crude Oil 76.95 -3.02 77.11
Gold, June 1209.0 34.0 1197.3
DJ Industrials 10461 4 10457
S&P 500 1122.80 0.40 1122.40
BLOOMBERG
FUTURES
VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE
Dow 10,472.00 15.00 0.14
S&P 500 1,124.40 2.00 0.18
NASDAQ 100 1,887.50 1.50 0.08
S&P/TSX 60 692.50 -3.40 -0.49
Mexico Bolsa 31,370.00 -663.00 -2.07
Brazil Bovespa 63,900.00 -1,594.00 -2.43
Futures
Last Change Settle
Crude Oil 76.95 -3.02 77.11
Gold, June 1209.0 34.0 1197.3
DJ Industrials 10461 4 10457
S&P 500 1122.80 0.40 1122.40
BLOOMBERG
FUTURES
VALUE CHANGE % CHANGE
Dow 10,472.00 15.00 0.14
S&P 500 1,124.40 2.00 0.18
NASDAQ 100 1,887.50 1.50 0.08
S&P/TSX 60 692.50 -3.40 -0.49
Mexico Bolsa 31,370.00 -663.00 -2.07
Brazil Bovespa 63,900.00 -1,594.00 -2.43
Editado pela última vez por albrib em 6/5/2010 21:56, num total de 1 vez.
Mais uma "novidade". Agora dizem que a culpa foi do Citi... Acho que isto ainda vai dar pano para mangas.
Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff
On Thursday May 6, 2010, 4:16 pm
A human trading error at a major firm was the root cause of Thursday's sudden, 9 percent selloff in U.S. stocks, sources told CNBC.
Multiple sources said a trader entered the letter "b"-as in "billion"-when he or she meant to type "m," for "million," shortly before 2:47 p.m. New York time.
U.S. stocks plunged suddenly, briefly by more than 9 percent, before pulling back to a near 3 percent drop, as investor worries mounted that Greece's debt problems could spread.
Sources also told CNBC that the firm in question is Citigroup.
Citigroup (NYSE: c) said it has no evidence of a bad trade but it is investigating the situation.
The New York Stock Exchange reported there were no computer glitches in its systems Thursday.
Separately, Nasdaq said it was working with other major markets to review the market activity that occurred between 2:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m.
Trading Error at Major Firm Blamed For Selloff
On Thursday May 6, 2010, 4:16 pm
A human trading error at a major firm was the root cause of Thursday's sudden, 9 percent selloff in U.S. stocks, sources told CNBC.
Multiple sources said a trader entered the letter "b"-as in "billion"-when he or she meant to type "m," for "million," shortly before 2:47 p.m. New York time.
U.S. stocks plunged suddenly, briefly by more than 9 percent, before pulling back to a near 3 percent drop, as investor worries mounted that Greece's debt problems could spread.
Sources also told CNBC that the firm in question is Citigroup.
Citigroup (NYSE: c) said it has no evidence of a bad trade but it is investigating the situation.
The New York Stock Exchange reported there were no computer glitches in its systems Thursday.
Separately, Nasdaq said it was working with other major markets to review the market activity that occurred between 2:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m.
Decline in world markets prompts fears of Greek 'contagion effect'
MADRID -- A third straight day of decline on world financial markets Thursday was vivid evidence of a scary proposition: That the fiscal crisis that began in Greece months ago is spreading across Europe like a virus, causing growing doubts about the fates of even nations with far more manageable levels of government debt.
It is called a "contagion effect," an economist's metaphor for the rapid and hard-to-predict spread of financial crisis, driven by the fragility of investors' perceptions. They are a function of vicious cycles in which confidence in a country's ability to repay its debts falls, driving up the country's borrowing rates and thus making it all the harder for the nation to handle its debts.
It leaves countries like Spain, the largest and most economically significant country in the path of the storm--at the mercy of global investors operating under the twin pressures of fear and greed. And it even can be true for countries that have managed their government debt responsibly--Spain has less debt relative to the size of its economy than the United States or Britain--if investors' views of their likely future deficits or ability to roll over debt shift.
The odds of a full-blown sovereign debt crisis have risen significantly over the past two weeks and especially following market turmoil Thursday, such that Europe in 2010 looks increasingly like East Asia in 1997 and 1998, when a currency devaluation in Thailand sparked a broad crisis in Korea, Indonesia and elsewhere.
On Thursday, Jean-Claude Trichet, head of the European Central Bank, said at a news conference that there was no discussion of the ECB buying countries' debt -- essentially printing money to fund borrowing by Greece and other at-risk nations -- at a policymaking meeting on the same day.
That drove up borrowing rates for Greece, Spain, Portugal and other nations viewed as in financial trouble, and helped drive the price of the euro down as low as $1.25, down from $1.27 Wednesday and $1.35 three weeks ago, as investors betting on continuing economic turmoil in Europe shifted money to dollars.
European stock markets fell, with the British market off 1.5 percent, France down 2.2 percent, Spain down 3 percent and Italy off 4.3 percent. The Spanish stock market is now down 11 percent since Monday.
Analysts had hoped that the ECB might use its essentially limitless ability to create money to stanch the crisis, though doing so could come at the cost of the long-term credibility of the central bank as an inflation-fighting central bank that does not yield to politics.
"Measures that damage the fundamental principles of the currency union and the trust of the people would be mistaken and more expensive for the economy in the longer term," said Axel Weber, a member of the ECB's policymaking council, according to Bloomberg News.
Still, Trichet did not explicitly rule out such purchases, saying only that the concept was not discussed, suggesting that the idea is not out of the question should the situation worsen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04401.html
MADRID -- A third straight day of decline on world financial markets Thursday was vivid evidence of a scary proposition: That the fiscal crisis that began in Greece months ago is spreading across Europe like a virus, causing growing doubts about the fates of even nations with far more manageable levels of government debt.
It is called a "contagion effect," an economist's metaphor for the rapid and hard-to-predict spread of financial crisis, driven by the fragility of investors' perceptions. They are a function of vicious cycles in which confidence in a country's ability to repay its debts falls, driving up the country's borrowing rates and thus making it all the harder for the nation to handle its debts.
It leaves countries like Spain, the largest and most economically significant country in the path of the storm--at the mercy of global investors operating under the twin pressures of fear and greed. And it even can be true for countries that have managed their government debt responsibly--Spain has less debt relative to the size of its economy than the United States or Britain--if investors' views of their likely future deficits or ability to roll over debt shift.
The odds of a full-blown sovereign debt crisis have risen significantly over the past two weeks and especially following market turmoil Thursday, such that Europe in 2010 looks increasingly like East Asia in 1997 and 1998, when a currency devaluation in Thailand sparked a broad crisis in Korea, Indonesia and elsewhere.
On Thursday, Jean-Claude Trichet, head of the European Central Bank, said at a news conference that there was no discussion of the ECB buying countries' debt -- essentially printing money to fund borrowing by Greece and other at-risk nations -- at a policymaking meeting on the same day.
That drove up borrowing rates for Greece, Spain, Portugal and other nations viewed as in financial trouble, and helped drive the price of the euro down as low as $1.25, down from $1.27 Wednesday and $1.35 three weeks ago, as investors betting on continuing economic turmoil in Europe shifted money to dollars.
European stock markets fell, with the British market off 1.5 percent, France down 2.2 percent, Spain down 3 percent and Italy off 4.3 percent. The Spanish stock market is now down 11 percent since Monday.
Analysts had hoped that the ECB might use its essentially limitless ability to create money to stanch the crisis, though doing so could come at the cost of the long-term credibility of the central bank as an inflation-fighting central bank that does not yield to politics.
"Measures that damage the fundamental principles of the currency union and the trust of the people would be mistaken and more expensive for the economy in the longer term," said Axel Weber, a member of the ECB's policymaking council, according to Bloomberg News.
Still, Trichet did not explicitly rule out such purchases, saying only that the concept was not discussed, suggesting that the idea is not out of the question should the situation worsen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 04401.html
"A incerteza dos acontecimentos,é sempre mais difícil de suportar do que o próprio acontecimento" Jean-Baptista Massilion.
"Só sabemos com exactidão quando sabemos pouco; à medida que vamos adquirindo conhecimentos, instala-se a dúvida"Johann Goethe
"Só sabemos com exactidão quando sabemos pouco; à medida que vamos adquirindo conhecimentos, instala-se a dúvida"Johann Goethe
CNBC: Erro humano na base do ‘crash'
Económico
06/05/10 20:55
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Partilhe: A CNBC está a avançar que na base da queda de 9% de Wall Street esteve um erro da parte de um trader de uma das maiores firmas de NY.
A estação de televisão norte-americana noticia que um operador terá premido a tecla ‘b' (de biliões) em vez da ‘m' (de milhões), inundado o mercado com uma ordem que motivou o pânico em Wall Sreet.
A CNBC diz ter obtido a informação em várias fontes no mercado.
A NYSE já disse que não houve qualquer erro técnico no sistema.
Económico
06/05/10 20:55
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Collapse Comunidade
Partilhe: A CNBC está a avançar que na base da queda de 9% de Wall Street esteve um erro da parte de um trader de uma das maiores firmas de NY.
A estação de televisão norte-americana noticia que um operador terá premido a tecla ‘b' (de biliões) em vez da ‘m' (de milhões), inundado o mercado com uma ordem que motivou o pânico em Wall Sreet.
A CNBC diz ter obtido a informação em várias fontes no mercado.
A NYSE já disse que não houve qualquer erro técnico no sistema.
"A incerteza dos acontecimentos,é sempre mais difícil de suportar do que o próprio acontecimento" Jean-Baptista Massilion.
"Só sabemos com exactidão quando sabemos pouco; à medida que vamos adquirindo conhecimentos, instala-se a dúvida"Johann Goethe
"Só sabemos com exactidão quando sabemos pouco; à medida que vamos adquirindo conhecimentos, instala-se a dúvida"Johann Goethe
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