Nokia-15 De Julho
Ontem e hoje foi puxada um bocado para baixo! (A Nokia AB Finland está a fazer 11.22euros) Será que é bom sinal?
P.S. - Em anteriores divulgações de resultados hoveram quedas antes de posteriores saltos positivos, e subidas antes de posteriores fortes quedas! - "wishfull thinking"!
P.S. - Em anteriores divulgações de resultados hoveram quedas antes de posteriores saltos positivos, e subidas antes de posteriores fortes quedas! - "wishfull thinking"!

"People want to be told what to do so badly that they'll listen to anyone." - Don Draper, Mad Men
conferencia de imprensa
Event Details
Title: Nokia's Q2 2004 Earnings Results Conference Call
Date: Thursday, July 15, 2004
Duration: 1 hour
Start times: 3.00 PM Helsinki / 1.00 PM London / 8.00 AM New York / 7.00 AM Dallas
Webcast Presentations
Considero ser importante o discurso, pois os resultados do q2 serao muito relativos
Title: Nokia's Q2 2004 Earnings Results Conference Call
Date: Thursday, July 15, 2004
Duration: 1 hour
Start times: 3.00 PM Helsinki / 1.00 PM London / 8.00 AM New York / 7.00 AM Dallas
Webcast Presentations
Considero ser importante o discurso, pois os resultados do q2 serao muito relativos
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Q2 2004 Nokia Earnings Conference Call
It should be noted that certain statements herein which are not historical facts, including, without limitation, those regarding: A) the timing of product and solution launches and deliveries; B) our ability to develop, implement and commercialize new products, solutions and technologies; C) expectations regarding market growth, developments and structural changes; D) expectations and targets for our results of operations; E) the outcome of pending and threatened litigation; and F) statements preceded by ''believe,'' ''expect,'' ''anticipate,'' ''foresee'' or similar expressions are forward-looking statements. Because these statements involve risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from the results that we currently expect. Factors that could cause these differences include, but are not limited to: 1) developments in the mobile communications industry and the broader mobility industry, including the development of the mobile software and services market, as well as industry consolidation and other structural changes; 2) timing and success of the introduction and roll out of new products and solutions; 3) demand for and market acceptance of our products and solutions; 4) the impact of changes in technology and the success of our product and solution development; 5) the intensity of competition in the mobility industry and changes in the competitive landscape; 6) our ability to control the variety of factors affecting our ability to reach our targets and give accurate forecasts; 7) pricing pressures; 8) the availability of new products and services by network operators and other market participants; 9) general economic conditions globally and in our most important markets; 10) our success in maintaining efficient manufacturing and logistics as well as the high quality of our products and solutions; 11) inventory management risks resulting from shifts in market demand; 12) our ability to source quality components without interruption and at acceptable prices; 13) our success in collaboration arrangements relating to technologies, software or new products and solutions; 14) the success, financial condition, and performance of our collaboration partners, suppliers and customers; 15) any disruption to information technology systems and networks that our operations rely on; 16) our ability to have access to the complex technology involving patents and other intellectual property rights included in our products and solutions at commercially acceptable terms and without infringing any protected intellectual property rights; 17) developments under large, multi-year contracts or in relation to major customers; 18) the management of our customer financing exposure; 19) exchange rate fluctuations, including, in particular, fluctuations between the euro, which is our reporting currency, and the US dollar, the UK pound sterling and the Japanese yen; 20) our ability to recruit, retain and develop appropriately skilled employees; 21) our ability to implement our new organizational structure; and 22) the impact of changes in government policies, laws or regulations; as well as 23) the risk factors specified on pages 12 to 21 of the company's Form 20-F for the year ended December 31, 2003 under "Item 3.D Risk Factors."
July 15, 2004
It should be noted that certain statements herein which are not historical facts, including, without limitation, those regarding: A) the timing of product and solution launches and deliveries; B) our ability to develop, implement and commercialize new products, solutions and technologies; C) expectations regarding market growth, developments and structural changes; D) expectations and targets for our results of operations; E) the outcome of pending and threatened litigation; and F) statements preceded by ''believe,'' ''expect,'' ''anticipate,'' ''foresee'' or similar expressions are forward-looking statements. Because these statements involve risks and uncertainties, actual results may differ materially from the results that we currently expect. Factors that could cause these differences include, but are not limited to: 1) developments in the mobile communications industry and the broader mobility industry, including the development of the mobile software and services market, as well as industry consolidation and other structural changes; 2) timing and success of the introduction and roll out of new products and solutions; 3) demand for and market acceptance of our products and solutions; 4) the impact of changes in technology and the success of our product and solution development; 5) the intensity of competition in the mobility industry and changes in the competitive landscape; 6) our ability to control the variety of factors affecting our ability to reach our targets and give accurate forecasts; 7) pricing pressures; 8) the availability of new products and services by network operators and other market participants; 9) general economic conditions globally and in our most important markets; 10) our success in maintaining efficient manufacturing and logistics as well as the high quality of our products and solutions; 11) inventory management risks resulting from shifts in market demand; 12) our ability to source quality components without interruption and at acceptable prices; 13) our success in collaboration arrangements relating to technologies, software or new products and solutions; 14) the success, financial condition, and performance of our collaboration partners, suppliers and customers; 15) any disruption to information technology systems and networks that our operations rely on; 16) our ability to have access to the complex technology involving patents and other intellectual property rights included in our products and solutions at commercially acceptable terms and without infringing any protected intellectual property rights; 17) developments under large, multi-year contracts or in relation to major customers; 18) the management of our customer financing exposure; 19) exchange rate fluctuations, including, in particular, fluctuations between the euro, which is our reporting currency, and the US dollar, the UK pound sterling and the Japanese yen; 20) our ability to recruit, retain and develop appropriately skilled employees; 21) our ability to implement our new organizational structure; and 22) the impact of changes in government policies, laws or regulations; as well as 23) the risk factors specified on pages 12 to 21 of the company's Form 20-F for the year ended December 31, 2003 under "Item 3.D Risk Factors."
July 15, 2004
Naquele dia ,todo o joelho se dobrará e toda a lingua confessará:
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Caros amigos
Estou confiante nos resultados e aguardo com expectativa algum discurso de imprensa , acredito que este ultimo será aquilo que os investidores esperam.
Hoje foram transacionados 14 milhoes de adrs
Hoje foram transacionados 14 milhoes de adrs
Naquele dia ,todo o joelho se dobrará e toda a lingua confessará:
- Que Jesus Cristo é o Senhor!
- Que Jesus Cristo é o Senhor!
- Mensagens: 1421
- Registado: 5/9/2003 21:18
Nokia Q2 to reveal cost and benefits of price cuts
July 14, 2004 11:36:00 AM ET
By Brett Young
HELSINKI, July 14 (Reuters) - Investors want to see if price cuts and consumer demand for the latest phone models have helped staunch Nokia's loss of market share when the world's top handset maker reports earnings on Thursday.
The second-quarter data, due at 1000 GMT, will be the first glimpse of how effective the Finnish titan has been in fending off rivals hungry for a larger slice of the booming global handset market -- and at what cost.
A Reuters poll of 18 analysts predicted Nokia's April-June sales would fall 6.6 percent on the year to 6.56 billion euros ($8.11 billion), with earnings per share expected to slump to 0.14 euro from an underlying year-ago EPS of 0.19 euro.
Analysts expect handset makers such as Nokia, Motorola (MOT), Samsung , Siemens and Sony Ericsson to sell 615 million handsets this year -- about 18 percent more than last year -- partly because of rising demand in emerging markets like India and China.
But Nokia stunned the market twice in 10 days in April by warning that its patchy handset portfolio was failing to win new customers, triggering a barrage of criticism and sending its shares 35 percent lower over the subsequent three months.
However, the firm has vowed to claw back lost market share, which research groups Strategy Analytics and Gartner estimate fell to about 29 percent in the first quarter from 35 percent a year ago.
PRICE CUTS
Nokia's main weapon has been price cuts estimated by analysts to range from five to 10 percent on selected phone models.
While this could weigh on margins, there has also been anecdotal evidence from retailers that some of the company's high-end models, like its 6230 camera phone and its 7200 flip-phone, have been hot sellers.
"It seems that the market has been doing better than expected, and (Nokia's) price cuts have been working," said Carnegie analyst Mika Paloranta.
"Our impression is that Nokia will have seen a slight rise in market share in the quarter, while other vendors like Motorola and Siemens had a slight decline," added Commerzbank analyst James Crawshaw.
Analysts are also awaiting any guidance on Nokia's July-September quarter. Nokia has already said handset margins will stay under pressure until its portfolio is back in shape -- something experts say is unlikely before the fourth quarter at the earliest.
"The only potential risk is that (Nokia) wants to continue with conservative guidance, and gives a Q3 outlook that is more muted than expected," Crawshaw said.
In the meantime, analysts are forecasting third-quarter EPS of 0.14 euro, down from 0.17 euro a year ago -- and they expect further price cuts.
"Nokia will have to continue being aggressive on prices, especially with lower-end phones, during the third quarter," Mandatum Stockbrokers analyst Erkki Vesola added.
Nokia Networks, which suffered for years due to infrastructure spending cuts by telecom operators, is expected to continue being a bright spot for the company.
Nokia Networks head Sari Baldauf has told Reuters the division's solid performance continued in the second quarter.
"Judging by the orders disclosed, it seems that the momentum (at Networks) will remain favourable for some time," Carnegie's Paloranta said.
(Additional reporting by Eric Auchard in New York) MORE
© 2004 Reuters
July 14, 2004 11:36:00 AM ET
By Brett Young
HELSINKI, July 14 (Reuters) - Investors want to see if price cuts and consumer demand for the latest phone models have helped staunch Nokia's loss of market share when the world's top handset maker reports earnings on Thursday.
The second-quarter data, due at 1000 GMT, will be the first glimpse of how effective the Finnish titan has been in fending off rivals hungry for a larger slice of the booming global handset market -- and at what cost.
A Reuters poll of 18 analysts predicted Nokia's April-June sales would fall 6.6 percent on the year to 6.56 billion euros ($8.11 billion), with earnings per share expected to slump to 0.14 euro from an underlying year-ago EPS of 0.19 euro.
Analysts expect handset makers such as Nokia, Motorola (MOT), Samsung , Siemens and Sony Ericsson to sell 615 million handsets this year -- about 18 percent more than last year -- partly because of rising demand in emerging markets like India and China.
But Nokia stunned the market twice in 10 days in April by warning that its patchy handset portfolio was failing to win new customers, triggering a barrage of criticism and sending its shares 35 percent lower over the subsequent three months.
However, the firm has vowed to claw back lost market share, which research groups Strategy Analytics and Gartner estimate fell to about 29 percent in the first quarter from 35 percent a year ago.
PRICE CUTS
Nokia's main weapon has been price cuts estimated by analysts to range from five to 10 percent on selected phone models.
While this could weigh on margins, there has also been anecdotal evidence from retailers that some of the company's high-end models, like its 6230 camera phone and its 7200 flip-phone, have been hot sellers.
"It seems that the market has been doing better than expected, and (Nokia's) price cuts have been working," said Carnegie analyst Mika Paloranta.
"Our impression is that Nokia will have seen a slight rise in market share in the quarter, while other vendors like Motorola and Siemens had a slight decline," added Commerzbank analyst James Crawshaw.
Analysts are also awaiting any guidance on Nokia's July-September quarter. Nokia has already said handset margins will stay under pressure until its portfolio is back in shape -- something experts say is unlikely before the fourth quarter at the earliest.
"The only potential risk is that (Nokia) wants to continue with conservative guidance, and gives a Q3 outlook that is more muted than expected," Crawshaw said.
In the meantime, analysts are forecasting third-quarter EPS of 0.14 euro, down from 0.17 euro a year ago -- and they expect further price cuts.
"Nokia will have to continue being aggressive on prices, especially with lower-end phones, during the third quarter," Mandatum Stockbrokers analyst Erkki Vesola added.
Nokia Networks, which suffered for years due to infrastructure spending cuts by telecom operators, is expected to continue being a bright spot for the company.
Nokia Networks head Sari Baldauf has told Reuters the division's solid performance continued in the second quarter.
"Judging by the orders disclosed, it seems that the momentum (at Networks) will remain favourable for some time," Carnegie's Paloranta said.
(Additional reporting by Eric Auchard in New York) MORE
© 2004 Reuters
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Nokia revela-se no ultimo dia que eu estimei
Conforme o meu prognostico , hoje dia 6 de Julho sairam as estimativas para a Nokia e a ideia lançada pelo Ceo.
Lendo os valores avançados concluou que a empresa baixou os preços de venda dos seus produtos, no entanto foi recompensada pela ajuda cambial.
O Ceo deixa a entender que os resultados sairao aproximadamente em linha com o esperado( bem bom), pois de uma situaçao de quedas inverteu a tendencia.
Agora somente dia 15 saberemos o que ele pensa para os proximos exercicios , que creio eu , sejam melhores .
basta ele levantar as estimativas para os proximos exercicios para que as acçoes comecem de imediato a subir, pois o mercado funciona por antecipaçao.
Ainda na sessao de hoje , é de reparar o excelente comportamento das acçoes, tendo em vista o comportamento das tecnologicas em geral e o haver sido revelado as estimativas pelo Ceo.
os adrs fecharao a $14.15 usd , tendo em after já feito $14.18 e sou ficar ask a $ 14.3
Quem sabe ela tenha feito hoje os minimos dos proximos tempos
Lendo os valores avançados concluou que a empresa baixou os preços de venda dos seus produtos, no entanto foi recompensada pela ajuda cambial.
O Ceo deixa a entender que os resultados sairao aproximadamente em linha com o esperado( bem bom), pois de uma situaçao de quedas inverteu a tendencia.
Agora somente dia 15 saberemos o que ele pensa para os proximos exercicios , que creio eu , sejam melhores .
basta ele levantar as estimativas para os proximos exercicios para que as acçoes comecem de imediato a subir, pois o mercado funciona por antecipaçao.
Ainda na sessao de hoje , é de reparar o excelente comportamento das acçoes, tendo em vista o comportamento das tecnologicas em geral e o haver sido revelado as estimativas pelo Ceo.
os adrs fecharao a $14.15 usd , tendo em after já feito $14.18 e sou ficar ask a $ 14.3
Quem sabe ela tenha feito hoje os minimos dos proximos tempos

Naquele dia ,todo o joelho se dobrará e toda a lingua confessará:
- Que Jesus Cristo é o Senhor!
- Que Jesus Cristo é o Senhor!
- Mensagens: 1421
- Registado: 5/9/2003 21:18
EARNINGS POLL-Nokia second-quarter EPS seen at 0.14 euro
Nao sei onde a Reuters terá tirado esta informaçao, mas vale pelo que vale.
EARNINGS POLL-Nokia second-quarter EPS seen at 0.14 euro
July 06, 2004 08:24:00 AM ET
By Lenny Huuska
HELSINKI, July 6 (Reuters) - Nokia's
second-quarter sales are expected to have fallen 6.6 percent
year on year, a Reuters poll showed, after the top mobile phone
maker cut prices aggressively to win back market share.
April-to-June net sales are seen falling to 6.56 billion
euros ($8.06 billion), according to the average forecast from a
survey of 18 analysts. The company has forecast that its sales
would be flat or slightly lower compared with the figure of 7.02
billion euros a year earlier.
The analyst forecast has dropped some 140 million euros from
the average estimate in a Reuters poll at the end of May. The
forecasts for the third quarter show Nokia is expected to post a
sales decline of about five percent.
Nokia is expected to post April-to-July results on July 15.
Earnings for the quarter are seen at 0.14 euro per share
versus an underlying 0.19 euro a year ago and in the middle of
the firm's 0.13-to-0.15-euro forecast. The analyst estimate has
weakened by one euro cent from the poll in May.
Analysts have expected Nokia to meet its cautious
second-quarter earnings forecasts thanks to a recovery by its
networks business and booming demand for cellphones.
But most have said the company's steps are not sufficient to
reverse the telecom equipment giant's market share decline in
the next quarters.
Analysts expect the firm's global handset market share to
decline to 31 percent this year, down a further two percentage
points from their average May forecast.
According to research group Gartner, Nokia's market share
was 34.7 percent last year, while it estimated Nokia's market
share to have fallen to 28.9 percent in the first quarter.
For an in-depth preview of Nokia's second-quarter results,
double-click on [ID:nL02633058]
POLL RESULT DETAILS:
NET SALES (mln euros)
Avg Median High Low Ests. Yr-Ago
Q2 6,558 6,538 6,978 6,170 18 7,019
Q3 6,548 6,590 7,160 6,015 17 6,874
2004 27,986 28,036 29,887 26,582 18 29,455
2005 29,605 29,610 32,605 25,840 17
OPERATING PROFIT (mln euros)
Q2 903 903 981 827 18 818
Q3 925 920 1,090 802 17 1,154
2004 4,361 4,292 4,771 3,926 18 5,011
2005 4,708 4,529 5,830 3,785 17
PRE-TAX PROFIT (mln euros)
Q2 980 990 1,105 895 18 946
Q3 997 980 1,165 868 17 1,222
2004 4,655 4,530 5,091 4,199 18 5,345
2005 5,028 4,833 6,150 4,050 17
DILUTED EPS (euros)
Q2 0.14 0.14 0.15 0.13 18 0.13
Q3 0.14 0.14 0.17 0.13 17 0.17
2004 0.68 0.67 0.74 0.61 18 0.75
2005 0.75 0.75 0.90 0.63 17
DIVIDEND PER SHARE (euros)
2004 0.29 0.30 0.32 0.24 11 0.30
2005 0.33 0.33 0.40 0.25 11
NUMBER OF HANDSETS SOLD IN 2004 (mln units)
MARKET 615 617 637 600 14 520*
NOKIA 192 193 201 185 14 181*
*Estimates by Gartner Research
NOKIA MOBILE PHONES
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 821 822 929 690 18 1,308
Q3 871 845 1,002 719 17 1,473
2004 3,913 3,870 4,456 3,496 18 5,927
2005 3,785 3,544 5,000 2,830 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 4,057 4,044 4,422 3,798 18 4,806
Q3 4,141 4,123 4,453 3,820 17 5,118
2004 17,421 17,512 19,229 15,996 18 20,951
2005 17,224 16,770 19,740 13,400 14
NOKIA NETWORKS
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 202 196 279 151 18 -349
Q3 163 165 210 95 17 4
2004 800 811 1,009 608 18 -219
2005 869 891 1,072 468 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 1,572 1,566 1,746 1,465 18 1,480
Q3 1,406 1,400 1,514 1,337 17 1,217
2004 6,170 6,161 6,444 5,838 18 5,620
2005 6,700 6,665 7,312 5,874 14
NOKIA MULTIMEDIA
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 5 9 46 -49 18 -75
Q3 11 0 90 -52 17 -177
2004 145 141 322 -91 18 -186
2005 503 473 896 301 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 818 823 924 673 18 596
Q3 834 818 1,070 707 17 471
2004 3,657 3,571 4,546 3,205 18 2,504
2005 4,763 4,692 5,800 3,822 14
NOKIA ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 -27 -25 -10 -46 18 45
Q3 -28 -25 14 -61 17 -34
2004 -102 -106 -1 -158 18 -141
2005 -24 -15 47 -80 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 198 200 244 84 18 193
Q3 187 177 272 145 17 113
2004 816 780 1,074 688 18 529
2005 1,052 993 1,500 825 14
The following banks and brokerages contributed to the poll:
BANK/BROKERAGE RECOMMENDATION
Alfred Berg ABN Amro Not disclosed
CAI Cheuvreux Outperform
Carnegie Not disclosed
Commerzbank Overweight
Conventum Securities Accumulate
Deutsche Bank Buy
Enskilda Securities Not disclosed
Evli Bank Reduce
FIM Securities Not disclosed
Goldman Sachs Hold
Hagstromer & Qviberg Not disclosed
Handelsbanken Capital Markets Not disclosed
ING Financial Markets Hold
Lehman Brothers Equal weight
Mandatum Stockbrokers Hold
Morgan Stanley Not disclosed
Opstock Securities Accumulate
WestLB Panmure Underperform
REUTERS
© 2004 Reuters
EARNINGS POLL-Nokia second-quarter EPS seen at 0.14 euro
July 06, 2004 08:24:00 AM ET
By Lenny Huuska
HELSINKI, July 6 (Reuters) - Nokia's
second-quarter sales are expected to have fallen 6.6 percent
year on year, a Reuters poll showed, after the top mobile phone
maker cut prices aggressively to win back market share.
April-to-June net sales are seen falling to 6.56 billion
euros ($8.06 billion), according to the average forecast from a
survey of 18 analysts. The company has forecast that its sales
would be flat or slightly lower compared with the figure of 7.02
billion euros a year earlier.
The analyst forecast has dropped some 140 million euros from
the average estimate in a Reuters poll at the end of May. The
forecasts for the third quarter show Nokia is expected to post a
sales decline of about five percent.
Nokia is expected to post April-to-July results on July 15.
Earnings for the quarter are seen at 0.14 euro per share
versus an underlying 0.19 euro a year ago and in the middle of
the firm's 0.13-to-0.15-euro forecast. The analyst estimate has
weakened by one euro cent from the poll in May.
Analysts have expected Nokia to meet its cautious
second-quarter earnings forecasts thanks to a recovery by its
networks business and booming demand for cellphones.
But most have said the company's steps are not sufficient to
reverse the telecom equipment giant's market share decline in
the next quarters.
Analysts expect the firm's global handset market share to
decline to 31 percent this year, down a further two percentage
points from their average May forecast.
According to research group Gartner, Nokia's market share
was 34.7 percent last year, while it estimated Nokia's market
share to have fallen to 28.9 percent in the first quarter.
For an in-depth preview of Nokia's second-quarter results,
double-click on [ID:nL02633058]
POLL RESULT DETAILS:
NET SALES (mln euros)
Avg Median High Low Ests. Yr-Ago
Q2 6,558 6,538 6,978 6,170 18 7,019
Q3 6,548 6,590 7,160 6,015 17 6,874
2004 27,986 28,036 29,887 26,582 18 29,455
2005 29,605 29,610 32,605 25,840 17
OPERATING PROFIT (mln euros)
Q2 903 903 981 827 18 818
Q3 925 920 1,090 802 17 1,154
2004 4,361 4,292 4,771 3,926 18 5,011
2005 4,708 4,529 5,830 3,785 17
PRE-TAX PROFIT (mln euros)
Q2 980 990 1,105 895 18 946
Q3 997 980 1,165 868 17 1,222
2004 4,655 4,530 5,091 4,199 18 5,345
2005 5,028 4,833 6,150 4,050 17
DILUTED EPS (euros)
Q2 0.14 0.14 0.15 0.13 18 0.13
Q3 0.14 0.14 0.17 0.13 17 0.17
2004 0.68 0.67 0.74 0.61 18 0.75
2005 0.75 0.75 0.90 0.63 17
DIVIDEND PER SHARE (euros)
2004 0.29 0.30 0.32 0.24 11 0.30
2005 0.33 0.33 0.40 0.25 11
NUMBER OF HANDSETS SOLD IN 2004 (mln units)
MARKET 615 617 637 600 14 520*
NOKIA 192 193 201 185 14 181*
*Estimates by Gartner Research
NOKIA MOBILE PHONES
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 821 822 929 690 18 1,308
Q3 871 845 1,002 719 17 1,473
2004 3,913 3,870 4,456 3,496 18 5,927
2005 3,785 3,544 5,000 2,830 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 4,057 4,044 4,422 3,798 18 4,806
Q3 4,141 4,123 4,453 3,820 17 5,118
2004 17,421 17,512 19,229 15,996 18 20,951
2005 17,224 16,770 19,740 13,400 14
NOKIA NETWORKS
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 202 196 279 151 18 -349
Q3 163 165 210 95 17 4
2004 800 811 1,009 608 18 -219
2005 869 891 1,072 468 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 1,572 1,566 1,746 1,465 18 1,480
Q3 1,406 1,400 1,514 1,337 17 1,217
2004 6,170 6,161 6,444 5,838 18 5,620
2005 6,700 6,665 7,312 5,874 14
NOKIA MULTIMEDIA
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 5 9 46 -49 18 -75
Q3 11 0 90 -52 17 -177
2004 145 141 322 -91 18 -186
2005 503 473 896 301 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 818 823 924 673 18 596
Q3 834 818 1,070 707 17 471
2004 3,657 3,571 4,546 3,205 18 2,504
2005 4,763 4,692 5,800 3,822 14
NOKIA ENTERPRISE SOLUTIONS
EBIT (mln euros)
Q2 -27 -25 -10 -46 18 45
Q3 -28 -25 14 -61 17 -34
2004 -102 -106 -1 -158 18 -141
2005 -24 -15 47 -80 14
NET SALES (mln euros)
Q2 198 200 244 84 18 193
Q3 187 177 272 145 17 113
2004 816 780 1,074 688 18 529
2005 1,052 993 1,500 825 14
The following banks and brokerages contributed to the poll:
BANK/BROKERAGE RECOMMENDATION
Alfred Berg ABN Amro Not disclosed
CAI Cheuvreux Outperform
Carnegie Not disclosed
Commerzbank Overweight
Conventum Securities Accumulate
Deutsche Bank Buy
Enskilda Securities Not disclosed
Evli Bank Reduce
FIM Securities Not disclosed
Goldman Sachs Hold
Hagstromer & Qviberg Not disclosed
Handelsbanken Capital Markets Not disclosed
ING Financial Markets Hold
Lehman Brothers Equal weight
Mandatum Stockbrokers Hold
Morgan Stanley Not disclosed
Opstock Securities Accumulate
WestLB Panmure Underperform
REUTERS
© 2004 Reuters
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cnbc elevou a Nokia para nota maxima
Cnbc Elevou a nota maxima para a Nokia
Nokia wins design competition with the Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone
July 05, 2004
Düsseldorf/Helsinki, 5 July 2004 - At today's ceremony announcing the winners of the red dot award: product design 2004, held at the Aalto Theatre in Essen, the Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone received the award in the category "high design quality/communications". With a record number of 1,673 entries from 32 countries this year, the red dot design award is Germany's biggest design competition.
"With our Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone, we are pleased to have found a communications solution with a user interface that is ideally adapted to the automotive environment. This not only makes on-the-road calling and messaging more comfortable, but is also an example of appealing design", comments Waldemar Sakalus, Director Nokia Smart Traffic Products. "The red dot design award confirms for us that our products in the automotive communications area continue to represent the cutting edge of wireless design."
The Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone supports the new Bluetooth SIM Access Profile*, allowing wireless access to the SIM card in a compatible mobile phone. The user enjoys all the convenience of a car phone. Some of these features include an external GSM antenna, excellent sound quality in handsfree operation, comfortable operation tailored to the needs of the driver, including function control using the NaviTM wheel, as well as a separate display optimised for in-car conditions. At the same time, Bluetooth wireless technology allows the Nokia 610 to access phone numbers stored on the user's compatible mobile phone and to make them available for handsfree voice dialling.
A jury of 24 design experts from eight countries conferred red dot awards in eleven categories this year. The evaluation criteria included degree of innovation, functionality and the formal qualities of the products. In addition to the festive awards ceremony at the Aalto Theatre, attended by a large number of prominent entrepreneurs and designers from all over the world, a special exhibition of the award-winning products will be held at Essen's red dot design museum from 6 July to 8 August 2004. The museum's permanent exhibition of contemporary design is the largest of its kind anywhere in the world.
Nokia wins design competition with the Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone
July 05, 2004
Düsseldorf/Helsinki, 5 July 2004 - At today's ceremony announcing the winners of the red dot award: product design 2004, held at the Aalto Theatre in Essen, the Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone received the award in the category "high design quality/communications". With a record number of 1,673 entries from 32 countries this year, the red dot design award is Germany's biggest design competition.
"With our Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone, we are pleased to have found a communications solution with a user interface that is ideally adapted to the automotive environment. This not only makes on-the-road calling and messaging more comfortable, but is also an example of appealing design", comments Waldemar Sakalus, Director Nokia Smart Traffic Products. "The red dot design award confirms for us that our products in the automotive communications area continue to represent the cutting edge of wireless design."
The Nokia 610 Car Kit Phone supports the new Bluetooth SIM Access Profile*, allowing wireless access to the SIM card in a compatible mobile phone. The user enjoys all the convenience of a car phone. Some of these features include an external GSM antenna, excellent sound quality in handsfree operation, comfortable operation tailored to the needs of the driver, including function control using the NaviTM wheel, as well as a separate display optimised for in-car conditions. At the same time, Bluetooth wireless technology allows the Nokia 610 to access phone numbers stored on the user's compatible mobile phone and to make them available for handsfree voice dialling.
A jury of 24 design experts from eight countries conferred red dot awards in eleven categories this year. The evaluation criteria included degree of innovation, functionality and the formal qualities of the products. In addition to the festive awards ceremony at the Aalto Theatre, attended by a large number of prominent entrepreneurs and designers from all over the world, a special exhibition of the award-winning products will be held at Essen's red dot design museum from 6 July to 8 August 2004. The museum's permanent exhibition of contemporary design is the largest of its kind anywhere in the world.
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Nokia marks ten years on the NYSE and new presence in New Yo
Nokia marks ten years on the NYSE and new presence in New York by ringing opening bell
July 02, 2004
After ten successful years on the NYSE, Nokia Chief Financial Officer Rick Simonson to ring opening bell
NEW YORK - Nokia, celebrating its tenth anniversary as the first Finnish company listed on the New York Stock Exchange today announced that it will be ringing the NYSE opening bell on Tuesday, July 6th. This marks the second time that Nokia has been involved in the ceremonial stock exchange opening, the first time being on the date of the initial listing on the NYSE on July 1, 1994.
Nokia, founded in 1865 as a forest industry enterprise, has grown into the world's leading supplier of mobile phones and a leader in mobile and IP networks. Much of this growth has occurred in the ten years since Nokia was first listed on the NYSE. In 1994, Nokia had total sales of EUR 5 billion ($4 billion). In the most recent calendar year, Nokia had total sales of EUR 29 billion (over $37 billion). Over this ten-year timeframe, Nokia has become the top ADR (American Depository Receipt) program on the NYSE, is ranked in the top 15 most actively traded shares on the NYSE, and has seen shares held by US investors grow from approximately 15% of shares in 1994 to approximately 45% by the end of 2003.
Reflecting the transition of Nokia from a regional Finnish company to a true global enterprise over the past decade, Nokia is in the midst of opening a corporate office in the New York metro area. The relocation of the CFO's office to New York will allow Nokia to have even closer relationships with US-based financial stakeholders, while the establishment of the Nokia Enterprise Solutions headquarters in New York will put the new business unit in close proximity to its target market of many of the world's largest and most successful companies.
"In the ten years since our initial listing on the New York Stock Exchange, Nokia and the wireless industry have undergone a remarkable amount of change, and have created substantial value, especially considering the short period of time," said Rick Simonson, Chief Financial Officer of Nokia. "During this time, Nokia has found great success with our focus on telecommunications. Since 1994, we have helped create a world in which voice has gone mobile. Today, Nokia is continuing to innovate the next stage of mobility by helping people to take life mobile."
About Nokia
Nokia is the world leader in mobile communications. Backed by its experience, innovation, user-friendliness and secure solutions, the company has become the leading supplier of mobile phones and a leading supplier of mobile, fixed broadband and IP networks. By adding mobility to the Internet Nokia creates new opportunities for companies and further enriches the daily lives of people. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on five major exchanges.
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July 02, 2004
After ten successful years on the NYSE, Nokia Chief Financial Officer Rick Simonson to ring opening bell
NEW YORK - Nokia, celebrating its tenth anniversary as the first Finnish company listed on the New York Stock Exchange today announced that it will be ringing the NYSE opening bell on Tuesday, July 6th. This marks the second time that Nokia has been involved in the ceremonial stock exchange opening, the first time being on the date of the initial listing on the NYSE on July 1, 1994.
Nokia, founded in 1865 as a forest industry enterprise, has grown into the world's leading supplier of mobile phones and a leader in mobile and IP networks. Much of this growth has occurred in the ten years since Nokia was first listed on the NYSE. In 1994, Nokia had total sales of EUR 5 billion ($4 billion). In the most recent calendar year, Nokia had total sales of EUR 29 billion (over $37 billion). Over this ten-year timeframe, Nokia has become the top ADR (American Depository Receipt) program on the NYSE, is ranked in the top 15 most actively traded shares on the NYSE, and has seen shares held by US investors grow from approximately 15% of shares in 1994 to approximately 45% by the end of 2003.
Reflecting the transition of Nokia from a regional Finnish company to a true global enterprise over the past decade, Nokia is in the midst of opening a corporate office in the New York metro area. The relocation of the CFO's office to New York will allow Nokia to have even closer relationships with US-based financial stakeholders, while the establishment of the Nokia Enterprise Solutions headquarters in New York will put the new business unit in close proximity to its target market of many of the world's largest and most successful companies.
"In the ten years since our initial listing on the New York Stock Exchange, Nokia and the wireless industry have undergone a remarkable amount of change, and have created substantial value, especially considering the short period of time," said Rick Simonson, Chief Financial Officer of Nokia. "During this time, Nokia has found great success with our focus on telecommunications. Since 1994, we have helped create a world in which voice has gone mobile. Today, Nokia is continuing to innovate the next stage of mobility by helping people to take life mobile."
About Nokia
Nokia is the world leader in mobile communications. Backed by its experience, innovation, user-friendliness and secure solutions, the company has become the leading supplier of mobile phones and a leading supplier of mobile, fixed broadband and IP networks. By adding mobility to the Internet Nokia creates new opportunities for companies and further enriches the daily lives of people. Nokia is a broadly held company with listings on five major exchanges.
Media Inquiries:
Nokia Americas
Communications
Tel. +1 972 894 4573
E-mail: communication.corp@nokia.com
Nokia
Communications
Tel. +358 7180 34900
E-mail: press.releases@nokia.com
www.nokia.com
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Nokia
Nos States fechou a $14.65 , versus cambio dá valor proximo dos 12.05 Euros.
Movimentou perto dos 16 milhoes com fecho a ganhar 0.76%
Numa sessao como a de hoje , nada mau.
Portanto, tudo em aberto para a possibilidade dela arrancar entre os dias 2 e 6 de Julho.
Estou de olho
nas noticias , pois para mim começa a ficar iminente o disparo.
No entanto repito que isto nao passa de um sentimento pessoal que pode ou nao vir a confirmar-se.
Bons negocios a todos
Movimentou perto dos 16 milhoes com fecho a ganhar 0.76%
Numa sessao como a de hoje , nada mau.
Portanto, tudo em aberto para a possibilidade dela arrancar entre os dias 2 e 6 de Julho.
Estou de olho

No entanto repito que isto nao passa de um sentimento pessoal que pode ou nao vir a confirmar-se.
Bons negocios a todos
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Volume
De facto o volume tem sido enormissímo, o que já deixa antever algo para a apresentação de resultados, os big boys já devem estar a antecipar.
Entrei hoje na Nokia, tendo em vista vender após a divulgação.
Cumprimentos
Entrei hoje na Nokia, tendo em vista vender após a divulgação.
Cumprimentos
O verdadeiro caracter de um Homem vê-se pelo modo como trata alguém que não lhe vai dar absolutamente nada!
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Caro Pequeno buda
O facto de fecho acima de 12 euros , em meu entendimento é um excelente fecho, acumulado a 50 milhoes de titulos passados , so em helsinkia, nao contando com franckfurt e Paris.
Na america já la vao 12 milhoes de adrs vezes 10 representa 120 milhoes e ate ao momento tem estado a portar-se lindamente.
Cerca das 22 horas , farei update apos conhecer o fecho dos States.
Ate agora , tudo como previ.
Na america já la vao 12 milhoes de adrs vezes 10 representa 120 milhoes e ate ao momento tem estado a portar-se lindamente.
Cerca das 22 horas , farei update apos conhecer o fecho dos States.
Ate agora , tudo como previ.
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Horas
Alguém sabe a que horas saem os resultados no dia 15 de Julho?
É pena que os states hoje não estejam a ajudar nada, contudo lá se manteve uns ticks acima dos 12€, vamos lá ver qual o comportamento de amanhã!
Cumprimentos
É pena que os states hoje não estejam a ajudar nada, contudo lá se manteve uns ticks acima dos 12€, vamos lá ver qual o comportamento de amanhã!
Cumprimentos
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Noticias
Nokia and STMicroelectronics Introduce New Camera-Module Standard For Mobile Devices
July 01, 2004
SMIA Specification Targets Multiple Sourcing and Lower Camera-Phone Costs in Booming Market
Helsinki and Geneva - Nokia (NYSE: NOK) and STMicroelectronics (NYSE: STM) today announced that they are releasing a comprehensive specification for camera modules, aimed at standardizing this increasingly important component in mobile devices.
The specification, dubbed Standard Mobile Imaging Architecture, or SMIA, will cover all aspects of the modules, including their electrical, mechanical, and functional interfaces, and also address other key areas such as characterization, optical performance, and reliability. The SMIA specification is offered for free to the mobile imaging industry and is available at www.smia-forum.org.
The mobile-phone camera-module industry has developed rapidly in terms of technology, with dramatic increases in image quality and higher resolution. SMIA is a standardization effort to fulfill the emerging new requirements and enable mobile handset vendors to work with multiple suppliers. SMIA's target is to address the task of specifying functional and optical behavior of camera modules and therefore truly enable cost-efficient multiple sourcing of the module at the phone level.
"The camera phone market will increase rapidly with cameras entering into key product segments of mobile devices. Nokia recently estimated that the camera phone market would exceed 200 million units this year. SMIA's target is to streamline and accelerate the camera module development, ultimately contributing to creation of the state-of art imaging mobile devices, independent of vendors," said Janne Haavisto, Director, Camera Entity, Nokia Technology Platforms.
"ST and Nokia have worked on this specification for more than two years and both companies are contributing significant intellectual property into SMIA," said Marc Vasseur, General Manager of ST's Imaging Division. "ST has been immensely successful in this market due to best-in-class pixel performance, sensor and module development capabilities, and full ownership of the manufacturing flow. Now, the standardization of interfaces and system partitioning, via SMIA, will enable us to address significantly more opportunities in the mobile phone industry."
The demand for higher image resolution to mega pixel and beyond has prompted the need for increasing bandwidth on the interface, while keeping the pin count low and EMI consistent with mobile phone design constraints. In addition, significant cost reductions are made possible by optimizing the architecture of the camera phone as a whole, as opposed to viewing the camera as a peripheral subsystem. SMIA proposes a framework for defining the related metrics.
SMIA specifies imaging sub-element partitioning that will enable independent technology evolution and optimal design development. Based on a partitioned architecture approach, the optics and sensor will be implemented on the SMIA camera module and imaging processing will be executed, for example, by the mobile phone's main application processor engine.
From electrical interface to optical performance:
SMIA has six chapters that cover all key aspects of a camera module:
- The electrical interface specifies the physical layer (voltage levels, pin-count, timing), data rate (up to 650Mb/sec), EMI (electro-magnetic interference) performance, and output image format.
- The functional specification specifies frame and field formats, register maps for set-up and control and has three profiles that helps easy video usability with high resolution sensors
- The mechanical interface proposes a family of set of modules that provide mechanical outlines specifically designed for volume manufacturing.
- The characterization chapter provides for optical-performance metrics and sensor noise standards.
- The reliability chapter includes environmental-test and drop-test standards
- Finally, a software model is also provided in the SMIA specification, including reference device drivers and software architecture.
Royalty-free license
While Nokia and ST hold key patents and other intellectual property in the SMIA specification, both companies have decided to open these up to any third party and will not assert those rights against anyone implementing a fully compliant SMIA module. No fee, nor royalty, will be levied. A simple license form can be found on www.smia-forum.org.
Availability and other information
The full set of specification documents will be released on July 1st on the SMIA web site www.smia-forum.org, along with additional information.
July 01, 2004
SMIA Specification Targets Multiple Sourcing and Lower Camera-Phone Costs in Booming Market
Helsinki and Geneva - Nokia (NYSE: NOK) and STMicroelectronics (NYSE: STM) today announced that they are releasing a comprehensive specification for camera modules, aimed at standardizing this increasingly important component in mobile devices.
The specification, dubbed Standard Mobile Imaging Architecture, or SMIA, will cover all aspects of the modules, including their electrical, mechanical, and functional interfaces, and also address other key areas such as characterization, optical performance, and reliability. The SMIA specification is offered for free to the mobile imaging industry and is available at www.smia-forum.org.
The mobile-phone camera-module industry has developed rapidly in terms of technology, with dramatic increases in image quality and higher resolution. SMIA is a standardization effort to fulfill the emerging new requirements and enable mobile handset vendors to work with multiple suppliers. SMIA's target is to address the task of specifying functional and optical behavior of camera modules and therefore truly enable cost-efficient multiple sourcing of the module at the phone level.
"The camera phone market will increase rapidly with cameras entering into key product segments of mobile devices. Nokia recently estimated that the camera phone market would exceed 200 million units this year. SMIA's target is to streamline and accelerate the camera module development, ultimately contributing to creation of the state-of art imaging mobile devices, independent of vendors," said Janne Haavisto, Director, Camera Entity, Nokia Technology Platforms.
"ST and Nokia have worked on this specification for more than two years and both companies are contributing significant intellectual property into SMIA," said Marc Vasseur, General Manager of ST's Imaging Division. "ST has been immensely successful in this market due to best-in-class pixel performance, sensor and module development capabilities, and full ownership of the manufacturing flow. Now, the standardization of interfaces and system partitioning, via SMIA, will enable us to address significantly more opportunities in the mobile phone industry."
The demand for higher image resolution to mega pixel and beyond has prompted the need for increasing bandwidth on the interface, while keeping the pin count low and EMI consistent with mobile phone design constraints. In addition, significant cost reductions are made possible by optimizing the architecture of the camera phone as a whole, as opposed to viewing the camera as a peripheral subsystem. SMIA proposes a framework for defining the related metrics.
SMIA specifies imaging sub-element partitioning that will enable independent technology evolution and optimal design development. Based on a partitioned architecture approach, the optics and sensor will be implemented on the SMIA camera module and imaging processing will be executed, for example, by the mobile phone's main application processor engine.
From electrical interface to optical performance:
SMIA has six chapters that cover all key aspects of a camera module:
- The electrical interface specifies the physical layer (voltage levels, pin-count, timing), data rate (up to 650Mb/sec), EMI (electro-magnetic interference) performance, and output image format.
- The functional specification specifies frame and field formats, register maps for set-up and control and has three profiles that helps easy video usability with high resolution sensors
- The mechanical interface proposes a family of set of modules that provide mechanical outlines specifically designed for volume manufacturing.
- The characterization chapter provides for optical-performance metrics and sensor noise standards.
- The reliability chapter includes environmental-test and drop-test standards
- Finally, a software model is also provided in the SMIA specification, including reference device drivers and software architecture.
Royalty-free license
While Nokia and ST hold key patents and other intellectual property in the SMIA specification, both companies have decided to open these up to any third party and will not assert those rights against anyone implementing a fully compliant SMIA module. No fee, nor royalty, will be levied. A simple license form can be found on www.smia-forum.org.
Availability and other information
The full set of specification documents will be released on July 1st on the SMIA web site www.smia-forum.org, along with additional information.
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Caro Iniciante
Peço desculpa , hoje estive fora e so agora li a sua mensagem.
Quanto a Nokia no curto prazo 15 euros , no longo( acima de 4 meses) entre 18 a 20 euros.Embora nalgumas analises tecnicas se possa estimar valores superiores , mas a mim estes parecem-me realistas. No entanto eu posso estar a falhar , nao sei
Estas sao apenas convicçoes pessoais
Quanto a Nokia no curto prazo 15 euros , no longo( acima de 4 meses) entre 18 a 20 euros.Embora nalgumas analises tecnicas se possa estimar valores superiores , mas a mim estes parecem-me realistas. No entanto eu posso estar a falhar , nao sei
Estas sao apenas convicçoes pessoais
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fonte Bloomberg
Nordic Stocks Advance, Paced by Nokia, Ericsson and Ponsse
June 30, 2004 03:56 EDT -- Nordic stocks rose, paced by Nokia Oyj, the world's biggest maker of mobile phones. May output of electronic goods in Finland, the company's home country, rose 19 percent from a year earlier, government figures showed.
June 30, 2004 03:56 EDT -- Nordic stocks rose, paced by Nokia Oyj, the world's biggest maker of mobile phones. May output of electronic goods in Finland, the company's home country, rose 19 percent from a year earlier, government figures showed.
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Caros membros
A nokia repetiu hoje exatamente a mesma figura que fez antes do ultimo gap up.
Só espero que a historia se repita
Macd-igual
Rsi - identico
figura diaria identica ( nao sei o nome tecnico)
O mesmo gap com a mesma extensao
LOl sao demasiadas coincidencias para nao dar certo
Se calhar perco o meu prognostico que apontava entre os dias 2 e 6 de Julho
Só espero que a historia se repita

Macd-igual
Rsi - identico
figura diaria identica ( nao sei o nome tecnico)
O mesmo gap com a mesma extensao
LOl sao demasiadas coincidencias para nao dar certo
Se calhar perco o meu prognostico que apontava entre os dias 2 e 6 de Julho

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cofres a ficarem vazios
Os cofres dos adrs estao a ficar vazios de ordens , quer de compra , quer de venda e o volume transacionado , já ultrapassa os 5 milhoes.
Será que vai fechar o gap de abertura e depois liga o turbo?
Será que vai fechar o gap de abertura e depois liga o turbo?

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