O petróleo está em queda, mas a incerteza continua em alta

[Proportions]

Hoje vou ser do contra...

O crescimento exponencial é sustentável. 90% da população mundial faz-nos esse favor... apesar de só terem 10% da riqueza mundial.

(Para quem gosta de AT: A riqueza desses 90% está algures num canal descendente, aproximando-se do zero absoluto, na qual ficará num longo fundo, tão longo que não tem fim à vista. Ah, poderão ter de mudar a escala para que se pareça um canal, o melhor é usarem uma escala logarítmica, assim já parece linear...)

Isto claro, se entretanto esses 90% não se passarem dos carretos e tratarem do sebo aos outros 10%.

Disclaimer: Não, não tenho acções da PAD. É mesmo só para dizer que eu pertenço aos 10%, eu e todos os que por aqui andam, just in case you were wondering about that...

[Keyser Soze]

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[Quico]

Bem... o site associado ao vídeo (www.socialistworld.net) não ajuda muito a outras interpretações.

E isto de andar aí a ver conspirações por todo o lado não ajuda muito à seriedade dos autores. Mas como até a RTP considera sério o "Loose Change",...

[dakshinamurti]

Não considero que o documentário seja propaganda anti-capitalista, até porque capitalismo é algo muito maior do que sector bancário.

E se propor uma reforma monetária é ser anti-capitalista, então suponho que o Ron Paul seja anti-capitalista... O que é absurdo.

Abraços

[Keyser Soze]

a nossa sociedade terciária valoriza sobretudo isso: conhecimento, trabalho!.

os trabalhadores tornam-se assim proprietários dos meios de produção: know how, conhecimento cientifico, experiência profissional acumulado, network de contactos....

[Keyser Soze]

....Looking to human nature also helped Greenspan solve a perplexing economic mystery. Over the last 150 years, it seems that the maximum productivity growth the economy could achieve over a long period of time was 3 percent annually—despite a series of productivity-enhancing innovations, from the steam engine to the Internet. His conclusion? "What ultimately looks to be the case is that's the pace at which human beings operate," he said. People simply can't process new ideas more quickly. "The answer is that the human race, no matter how one defines it, is not smart enough to do better."...

[vgasmo]

...É que de facto um mundo de recursos limitados pode sustentar um crescimento exponencial. Como? Através da tecnologia que permite um aumento exponencial da produtividade.

Os economistas nunca conseguiram integrar o desenvolvimento científico e tecnológico nos seus modelos económicos. No entanto ele existe e é cada vez mais importanto na economia.
...

A produtividade não aumenta exponencialmente mas geometricamente (era bom que fosse exponencialmente).

Nem todos os recursos são limitados... pelo menos no sentido do uso ou desgaste (vide conhecimento).

O progresso tecnologico tem sido incorporado com algum sucesso, de Arrow a Romer (principalmente este). Isto na área tradicional... depois temos todo um ramo de Economia de Inovação tecnologica com fundamentos micro e macro... mas isto não é tão mainstream, embora seja utilizado, por exemplo, a nível da poltica regional (sistemas de inovação), ou da politica cientifica.

Cumps

[Quico]

Qual é então a receita dos autores do documentário para resolver o problema que eles próprios inventaram? Nacionalizar os bancos centrais, passar a um sistema monetário sem juros, o valor do dinheiro ser baseado no trabalho ...

Mas aí é que está!

O irónico da questão é que o autor deste documentário nem se apercebe que, a ser como ele diz, o tal monstro a que ele chama "Dívida" (que não corresponde de facto a "ouro" no banco) traduz o valor de dinheiro baseado no trabalho*.
Ou seja, quando eu contraio um empréstimo, o banco está a atribuir um valor ao trabalho que é espectável eu desenvolver no futuro!



* - O que até está bem; como disseste bem a nossa sociedade terciária valoriza sobretudo isso: conhecimento, trabalho!.

[marcolopes]

Marx, Lenine, Mao não diriam melhor. Eles e as suas teorias tiveram o destino que tiveram.

Tal como todas as outras vão ter o seu... não prova que umas sejam melhores ou piores, apenas diferentes. O sistema actual funciona na sociedade actual (ou vai funcionando), mas de LONGE é um sistema perfeito.

Até a lei de MOORE um dia deixará de fazer sentido...

[lutav]

(...)Mas esse tio usou uma teoria inovadora - a taxa de juro deve ser definida de modo a que a massa monetária cresça de acordo com a produtividade.(...)

é Atomez, nesta frase, disseste o suficiente para meia duzia de livros... é que é mesmo isto...

[Keyser Soze]

Margaret Mead in a Pinstriped Suit
Alan Greenspan discovers that human beings are … irrational!
By Daniel Gross
Posted Monday, Sept. 17, 2007, at 4:23 PM ET

In the movie Regarding Henry, a high-powered lawyer suffers a brain injury and discovers his humanity. Idea for a sequel: A high-powered economist writes his memoir and discovers the humanity of others. Call it Regarding Alan.

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan was the ultimate data hound. He made his bones constructing the most rational and information-rich economic models. The acolyte of Ayn Rand believed market capitalism was ordained to triumph in the 20th century because it spoke to human strivings in a way that collectivism couldn't. But when Newsweek editor Jon Meacham and I interviewed Greenspan last week and asked what he learned from writing his new memoir, The Age of Turbulence (see an excerpt here and an interview), he said that the experience made him appreciate that human nature is far more complex than what he learned about it from Adam Smith and The Fountainhead.

Greenspan seems to argue that since the case for capitalism is so overwhelmingly rational, the opposition to it must surely stem from very deep-seated, immutable characteristics. "And that carries me to the general conclusion that if you're going to model an economy, you have to do far better in understanding how the unit of the economy functions—i.e., the human being."

As he compiled the book, Greenspan lifted his eyes from spreadsheets and data sets long enough to notice certain universals in human behavior—beyond profit-seeking. "When you get to be my age you see teenagers who replicate each other generation after generation, and it's all crazy and idealistic in the same ways," he said. Greenspan also recalled his discovery that people in all sorts of isolated societies smile, and that when Lewis and Clark encountered the Indians of the Northwestern United States, they found certain commonalities: "These were societies that truly grew up without contact with the rest of the world."

Greenspan also turned to psychology and anthropology for explanations of economic irrationality. The erratic behavior of investors during and after bubbles—excessively exuberant on the upside, unwarrantedly pessimistic and fearful on the downside—continuously confounds economists. In his memoir, Greenspan mounts a spirited defense against critics who charge that he too cavalierly let bubbles inflate on his watch. His response: Bubbles, while "extraordinary human behavior, which is not what we could consider ideal," must be innate. They seem to break out everywhere—again and again. "There's a long history of forgetting bubbles," he writes. "But once that memory is gone, there appears to be an aspect of human nature to get cumulative exuberance." When the bubble inevitably breaks, as reality fails to meet expectations, "the result is a dramatic 180 degree switch from exuberance to fear."

So what should we learn from bubbles, aside from the fact that they can be great for the economy? The phenomenon, he said, "is ever increasingly suggestive that these market economies are run by consumers, mainly by the innate characteristics of human nature."

Looking to human nature also helped Greenspan solve a perplexing economic mystery. Over the last 150 years, it seems that the maximum productivity growth the economy could achieve over a long period of time was 3 percent annually—despite a series of productivity-enhancing innovations, from the steam engine to the Internet. His conclusion? "What ultimately looks to be the case is that's the pace at which human beings operate," he said. People simply can't process new ideas more quickly. "The answer is that the human race, no matter how one defines it, is not smart enough to do better."

The ultimate rationalist seems to have concluded that fear, resistance to change, exuberance, and human limitations play a bigger role than expected in economic development. And he recognized that economists have proven so human—i.e., fallible—in their forecasting because the force actually driving the economy is humans who are prone to act on emotion rather than reason. The inability to account for exuberance and fear—"huge unknown variables"—is one reason why economists do poorly forecasting recessions and other economic reversals. "I've been forecasting for 50 years and I have not seen any improvement in our capability of forecasting," he said.

Daniel Gross is the Moneybox columnist for Slate and the business columnist for Newsweek. You can e-mail him at moneybox@slate.com. He is the author of Pop! Why Bubbles Are Great for the Economy.

Article URL: http://www.slate.com/id/2174082/

[Keyser Soze]

Exclusive Book Excerpt: Alan Greenspan
Greenspan charts our economic course in 'The Age of Turbulence.' An excerpt.
Newsweek



Sept. 24, 2007 issue - People have always been enthralled by the notion that it is possible to peer into the future. Ancient Greek generals sought audiences with the oracle at Delphi to guide their military adventures. Fortune-tellers thrive to this day. Modern Wall Street employs phalanxes of very smart people to read what the entrails of market performance say about future stock prices. To what extent can we anticipate what lies ahead? Fortunately for policymakers, there is a degree of historical continuity in the way democratic societies and market economies function. There is indeed much that we can infer about the U.S. economy and the world at large in the decades ahead, especially if we adopt Winston Churchill's insight: "The further backward you look, the further forward you can see."

What, then, can we reasonably project for the U.S. economy for, say, the year 2030? Little, unless we first specify certain assumptions. I need affirmative answers to the following questions to get started. Will the rule of law still be firm in 2030? Will we still adhere to the principle of globalized free markets, with protectionism held in check? (By protectionism, I mean not just barriers to international trade and finance but governmental restrictions against competition in domestic markets as well.) Will we have fixed our dysfunctional elementary and secondary school systems? Will the consequences of global warming emerge slowly enough so as not to significantly affect U.S. economic activity by 2030? And finally, will we have kept terrorist attacks in the United States at bay? Unsaid are those possibilities, such as a wider war or a pandemic, that could upset any forecast.

But the long list of caveats does not inordinately tie our forecasting hands. After all, such a list has always existed in one form or another, and yet the record of long-term forecasting of the U.S. economy overall in my experience has been reasonably impressive. What is the most likely level of overall activity we can expect in our arbitrarily chosen 2030 forecast year?

Given our assumptions and the economy's historical record, it is difficult to imagine the employment rate of the civilian labor force being outside the rather narrow range of 90 to 96 percent (that is, an unemployment rate between 4 and 10 percent). America's fifty-year average is more than 94 percent, with nonrecession years (the assumption for 2030) near 95 percent. Combining labor force participation rates, population projections, a near 5 percent unemployment rate, and a stable workweek yields an annual growth rate in hours worked in the United States through 2030 of 0.5 percent.

If we smooth through the raw data on output per hour, a remarkably stable pattern of growth emerges, going back to 1870. Annual growth of nonfarm business output per hour has averaged close to 2.2 percent. Even without adjusting for the business cycle, wars, and other crises, the range of overlapping consecutive fifteen-year averages of the annual increase in output per hour stays consistently between 1 and 3 percent. Our historical experience strongly suggests that as long as the United States remains at technology's cutting edge, annual productivity growth over the long run should range between 0 and 3 percent.

But why not higher—say, 4 percent per year or more? After all, in much of the developing world, annual output per hour has been averaging growth of far more than 2 percent. But those nations have been able to "borrow" the proved technologies of the developed world and have not themselves had to undertake the slow step-by-step effort to advance cutting-edge technologies.

U.S. productivity in 2005 was 2.8 times higher than in 1955. That is because we knew so much more in 2005 than a half century earlier about how our physical world operates. Every year, millions of innovations incrementally improved overall productivity. This process has become particularly evident since the discovery of the exceptional electrical properties of silicon semiconductors following World War II. Yet why hasn't productivity growth been even faster? Couldn't what we knew in 2005 have been figured out by, say, 1980, thereby doubling the rate of productivity gains (and increases in standard of living) between 1955 and 1980? The simple answer is that human beings are not smart enough. Our history suggests that the ceiling on the productivity growth of an economy over the long term at the cutting edge of technology is at the most 3 percent per year. It takes time to apply new ideas and often decades before those ideas show up in productivity levels.

Which brings us to our bottom line. Coupled with the projected 0.5 percent annual increase in hours worked between 2005 and 2030 that follows from the demographic assumptions cited earlier, a slightly less than 2 percent annual average growth in GDP per hour implies a real GDP growth rate of slightly less than 2.5 percent per year, on average, between now and 2030. That compares with 3.1 percent per year, on average, over the past quarter century, when labor force growth was considerably faster.

Arriving at a credible forecast for the level of real GDP for 2030 is a start, but it doesn't tell us much about the nature of the dynamic that will be driving U.S. economic activity a quarter century in the future, or about the quality of our lives. For superimposed on these powerful trends will be the consequences of an inevitable completion of major aspects of globalization. At some point, globalization's vast economic migration—the epoch-making shift of fully half of the world's three-billion-person labor force from behind the walls of economies that were centrally planned, in part or in whole, to competitive world markets—will be complete, or as complete as it can possibly get. The continuing acceleration of the flow of workers to competitive markets during the past decade has been a potent disinflationary force. That acceleration has depressed wage growth and held down inflation virtually uniformly across the globe. Leaving aside Venezuela, Argentina, Iran, and Zimbabwe, inflation during 2006 in all developed and major developing nations was clustered between 0 and 7 percent. Similarly narrow ranges describe long-term interest rates. Such globally subdued price and interest rate pressures are exceptionally rare in my experience.

The rate of flow of workers to competitive labor markets will eventually slow, and as a result, disinflationary pressures should start to lift. China's wage-rate growth should mount, as should its rate of inflation. The first signs are likely to be a rise of export prices, best measured by the prices of Chinese goods imported into the United States. Falling import prices from China have had a powerful ripple effect. They have suppressed the prices of competing U.S.-made goods and contained the wages of the workers who produce them—as well as the wages of any who compete against the workers who produce the goods that vie with the Chinese imports. Accordingly, an easing of disinflationary pressures should foster a pickup of price inflation and wage growth in the United States. It should be noted that import prices from China rose markedly in spring 2007 for the first time in years.

How the federal reserve responds to a reemergence of inflation and expected falling world saving propensities will have a profound effect not only on how the U.S. economy of 2030 turns out but also, by extension, on our trading partners worldwide. The Federal Reserve's pre-1979 track record in heading off inflationary pressures was not a distinguished one. In part, that earlier history was a consequence of poor forecasting and analysis, but it also reflected pressures from populist politicians inherently biased toward lower interest rates. During my eighteen-and-a-half-year tenure, I cannot remember many calls from presidents or Capitol Hill for the Fed to raise interest rates. In fact, I believe there was none. As recently as August 1991, Senator Paul Sarbanes, in response to what he considered intolerably high interest rates, sought to remove voting authority on the FOMC [the board that controls the federal funds rate, the primary lever of monetary policy] from what he perceived were the "inherently hawkish" presidents of the Federal Reserve banks. Interest rates declined with the 1991 recession, and the proposal was shelved.

I regret to say that Federal Reserve independence is not set in stone. FOMC discretion is granted by statute and can be withdrawn by statute. I fear that my successors on the FOMC, as they strive to maintain price stability in the coming quarter century, will run into populist resistance from Congress, if not from the White House. As Fed chairman, I was largely spared such pressures because long-term interest rates, especially mortgage interest rates, declined persistently throughout my tenure.

It is possible that Congress has observed the remarkable prosperity that emerged in the United States and elsewhere as a consequence of low inflation and has learned from this happy circumstance. But I fear that containing inflation through higher interest rates will be as unpopular in the future as it was when Paul Volcker did it more than twenty-five years ago. "You're high on the hit parade for lynching," Senator Mark Andrews told Volcker bluntly in October 1981.

This brings us back to globalization. If my suppositions about the nature of the current grip of disinflationary pressure are anywhere near accurate, then wages and prices are being suppressed by a massive shift of low-cost labor, which, by its nature, must come to an end. A lessening in the degree of disinflation suggested by the upturn in prices of U.S. imports from China in spring 2007 and the firming of real long-term interest rates raise the possibility that the turn may be upon us sooner rather than later. So at some point in the next few years, unless contained, inflation will return to a higher long-term rate.

From 1939 to 1989, the year of the fall of the Berlin Wall and before the onset of the post-cold war wage-price disinflation, the CPI rose ninefold, or 4.5 percent per year. The 4.5 percent inflation rate, on average, for the half century following the abandonment of the gold standard is not necessarily the norm for the future. Nonetheless, it is probably not a bad first approximation of what we will face.

An inflation rate of 4 to 5 percent is not to be taken lightly—no one will be happy to see his or her saved dollars lose half their purchasing power in fifteen years or so. And while it is true that such a rate has not proved economically destabilizing in the past, an inflation projection in that range assumes a generally benign impact of retirement of the baby boomers, at least through the year 2030. Today's relative fiscal quiescence masks a pending tsunami. It will hit as a significant proportion of the nation's highly productive population retires to become recipients of our federal pay-as-you-go health and retirement system, rather than contributors to it. Over time, unless this is addressed, it could add massively to the demand for economic resources and heighten inflationary pressures.

Thus, without a change of policy, a higher rate of inflation can be anticipated in the United States. I know that the Federal Reserve, left alone, has the capacity and perseverance to effectively contain the inflation pressures I foresee. Yet to keep the inflation rate down to a gold standard level of under 1 percent, or even a less draconian 1 to 2 percent range, the Fed, given my scenario, would have to constrain monetary expansion so drastically that it could temporarily drive up interest rates into the double-digit range not seen since the days of Paul Volcker. Whether the Fed will be allowed to apply the hard-earned monetary policy lessons of the past four decades is a critical unknown. But the dysfunctional state of American politics does not give me great confidence in the short run. We could instead see a return of populist, anti-Fed rhetoric, which has lain dormant since 1991.

My fear is that as Washington strives to make good on the implicit promises made in the social contract that characterizes contemporary America, CPI inflation rates by 2030 will be some 4 percent or higher.

The "higher" is meant to reflect whatever inflation premium might arise as a consequence of the inadequate funding for health and retirement benefits for baby boomers. In the end, I see a positive fiscal outcome. But I suspect it is likely that to restore policy sanity we will first have to trudge through economic and political minefields before we act decisively. I am reminded of Churchill's perception of Americans, who "can always be counted on to do the right thing—after they have exhausted all other possibilities." The trip through the minefields is a major source of risk for my forecast, and it could be manifested in higher paths for interest rates and inflation.

As awesomely productive as market capitalism has proved to be, its Achilles' heel is a growing perception that its rewards, increasingly skewed to the skilled, are not distributed justly. Market capitalism on a global scale continues to require ever-greater skills as one new technology builds on another. Given that raw human intelligence is probably no greater today than in ancient Greece, our advancement will depend on additions to the vast heritage of human knowledge accumulated over the generations. A dysfunctional U.S. elementary and secondary education system has failed to prepare our students sufficiently rapidly to prevent a shortage of skilled workers and a surfeit of lesser-skilled ones, expanding the pay gap between the two groups. Unless America's education system can raise skill levels as quickly as technology requires, skilled workers will continue to earn greater wage increases, leading to ever more disturbing extremes of income concentration. Education reform will take years, and we need to address increasing income inequality now. Increasing taxes on the rich, a seemingly simple remedy, is likely to prove counterproductive to economic growth. But by opening our borders to large numbers of highly skilled immigrant workers, we would both enhance the skill level of the overall workforce and provide a new source of competition for higher-earning employees, thus driving down their wages. The popular acceptance of capitalist practice in the United States will likely rest on these seemingly quite doable reforms.

It is not an accident that human beings persevere and advance in the face of adversity. Adaptation is in our nature, a fact that leads me to be deeply optimistic about our future. Seers from the oracle of Delphi to today's Wall Street futurists have sought to ride this long-term positive trend that human nature directs. The Enlightenment's legacy of individual rights and economic freedom has unleashed billions of people to pursue the imperatives of their nature—to work toward better lives for themselves and their families. Progress is not automatic, however; it will demand future adaptations as yet unimaginable. But the frontier of hope that we all innately pursue will never close.

From "The Age of Turbulence" by Alan Greenspan. To be published by The Penguin Press, a division of Penguin Group (USA) Inc. © 2007 by Alan Greenspan.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20789997/

[Keyser Soze]

uhh... um perigoso cornucopiano

??? "cornucopiano" ? essa ultrapassa-me...

ehehe...é um elogio

bom post

[Rockerduck]

Cornucopian
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A cornucopian is someone who believes that continued progress and provision of material items for mankind can be met by advances in technology. Fundamentally there is enough matter and energy on the Earth to provide plenty for the estimated peak population of about 9 billion in 2050. However, this must also mean that there is enough for the current world population but starvation and fuel poverty have not been eradicated, suggesting that the problem is not a lack of resources but the distribution of said resources by the current economic and political system. Looking further into the future the abundance of matter, energy and lebensraum in space would appear to give humanity almost unlimited room for growth.

The term comes from the cornucopia, the mythical "horn of plenty" of the Greek mythology which supplied its owners with endless food and drink

Description by an opposing view

A cornucopian is someone who posits that there are few intractable natural limits to growth and believes the world can provide a practically limitless abundance of natural resources. The term 'cornucopian' is sometimes used derogatorily, especially by those who are skeptical of the view that technology can solve, or overcome, the problem of an exponentially-increasing human population living off a finite base of natural resources.

In practice, the cornucupian view relies upon the economic law of supply and demand: as demand rises for any commodity, its price rises accordingly, inducing producers to deliver more of it (since they stand to earn more per each unit sold). The subsequent increase in production tends to lower the price and make the commodity available to a wider range of consumers. This view assumes that the resource in question is renewable, or so vast that continued exploitation of supply can continue to meet demand.

In the Peak Oil debate, cornucopians posit that rising prices make oil deposits which were previously considered too expensive to extract and produce become profitable, and also spurs the development of alternative fuels. Peak Oil critics of the Cornucopian view stress that liquid petroleum is a finite resource, and production cannot be increased above a set amount no matter how much demand increases, because of Hubbert's Peak. They also argue that alternative energy cannot simply be plugged in, since they lack the fungibility and energy density of liquid hydrocarbon fuels.

[atomez]

uhh... um perigoso cornucopiano

??? "cornucopiano" ? essa ultrapassa-me...

Mas adiante.

Lendo o livro do Greenspan apercebi-me de uma coisa curiosa.

A teoria vigente era que para conter a inflação os bancos centrais deviam controlar a emissão de dinheiro de modo a que o crescimento da massa monetária em circulação crescesse de acordo com o crescimento da economia (PIB).

Isso é feito regulando a taxa de juro que define o preço do dinheiro de modo a estabilizar a procura de crédito ao nível pretendido.

Mas esse tio usou uma teoria inovadora - a taxa de juro deve ser definida de modo a que a massa monetária cresça de acordo com a produtividade.

Tenho a impressão que é por isso que a economia americana tem crescido a uma taxa quase o dobro da europeia.

[Dwer]

uhh... um perigoso cornucopiano

[atomez]

Desculpem lá, mas este video é mera propaganda anti-capitalista.

O tema central é "o dinheiro é criado pelos bancos a partir da dívida, como a dívida tem em cima uma taxa de juro que é definida como uma percentagem então o crescimento da dívida é exponencial, como é que um crescimento exponencial da dívida pode ser satisfeito com recursos limitados? Não pode, portanto todo o sistema vai estoirar."

Muito marxista...

Já Malthus há uns séculos se perguntava - "como é que um crescimento linear da produção agrícola pode sustentar um crescimento exponencial de seres humanos a alimentar? Não pode, portanto todo o sistema vai estoirar."

Mas obviamente Malthus estava errado. Porque a tecnologia de produção alimentar evoluiu mais depressa que as necessidades. E a invenção da pílula também ajudou.

Apesar de tudo, com todos os seus defeitos, limitações, distorções, desigualdades, etc. o sistema económico capitalista revelou-se o menos mau e mais eficiente que todos os outros que já foram tentados historicamente. O estoiro da União Soviética e a integração da China no sistema capitalista global atestam-o.

E porquê? Porque o sistema capitalista consegue resolver menos mal que os outros um problema básico - num mundo de recursos limitados, como investir os recursos existentes da forma mais produtiva possível?

É que de facto um mundo de recursos limitados pode sustentar um crescimento exponencial. Como? Através da tecnologia que permite um aumento exponencial da produtividade.

Os economistas nunca conseguiram integrar o desenvolvimento científico e tecnológico nos seus modelos económicos. No entanto ele existe e é cada vez mais importanto na economia.

Lei de Moore - "a capacidade de processamento dos chips electrónicos duplica a cada 18 meses, ao mesmo custo de produção". Esta lei foi formulada por um dos pioneiros da micro-electrónica (e fundador da Intel) nos anos 60 e tem vindo a cumprir-se a até a acelerar até aos dias de hoje. Uma taxa de crescimento muito acima do crescimento económico.

Outra coisa que os economistas não conseguem enquadrar deviamente é que as economias mais desenvolvidas (Europa, EUA, Canadá, Japão, Aus/NZ, no fundo a OCDE) são a mais de 80% economias de serviços. E os serviços necessitam de muito menos quantidades de matérias primas, energia e outros recursos não renováveis por unidade de valor criada que as tradicionais agricultura e indústria. Precisam sim é de cada vez maiores quantidades de inteligência, conhecimentos e informação. Mas esses recursos, felizmente, são renováveis.

Qual é então a receita dos autores do documentário para resolver o problema que eles próprios inventaram? Nacionalizar os bancos centrais, passar a um sistema monetário sem juros, o valor do dinheiro ser baseado no trabalho ...

Marx, Lenine, Mao não diriam melhor. Eles e as suas teorias tiveram o destino que tiveram.

[marcolopes]

5*! Aquilo que parecia uma explicação para crianças, acabou por se revelar um video MUITO interessante! 47 minutos fabulosos. Nada que ninguém interessado em economia e finanças não fizesse ideia, mas ao mesmo tempo, muito elucidativo. Recomendado!

UMA NOTA: Mais uma vez tive a oportunidade de ver que os presidentes dos USA mais "lúcidos" foram todos assassinados... Não são teorias, são factos.

[Jonhy Bigodes]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2583451279