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[creepy]

mechanic,

que fique claro uma coisa...

quando me referi a ignorancia referia-me á que tens sobre a teoria de Elliott... e portanto sobre o assunto específico.. longe de mim criticar a tua pessoa seja pelo que for...

em relação ao porreiro.. sempre me pareceste...

não te vou pedir que adiras ao movimento elliott pois tu próprio terás os teus métodos...

abraço e bons trades

[Midas]

Midas, o Zeitgeist e' um pouco....

E' um documentario para ver com olho critico visto que tem inumeras coisas erradas...

Para documentarios desse tipo vale o www.chrismartenson.com Crash Course que tem bom teor economico e fundamentato e correcto... deste tipo de videos e' o unico q recomendo mesmo

Sim esse documentário já vi há uns meses atrás e é excelente. Dá uma ideia de para onde os States caminham...

Cinemita ver os BASTERDS. Tarantino no seu melhor.

[The Mechanic]

assunoadr

Parece que o tópico está outra vez descambar.

Basta olhar trás para perceber que o creepy até tem sido bastante coerente. Quando o S&P caiu até aos 870 e activou o falso H&S, foi ele que defendeu a expanded flat até aos 965 como target mínimo ("não duvidem do poder de uma expanded flat").

Não está nada a descambar . E ninguem está a discutir o creepy ( senão dizia-te pra ires à pag.5 onde o creepy aponta uma descida dos 980 ao 880 pontos .não acertou. não há problema . acontece a todos . só que não vale a pena é depois eu andar a ir buscar um exemplo de há um mês atrás, que não deu certo , pra mandar o método abaixo). Estou a discutir sobre as EW .Por isso , falem por vocês . Digam o que disseram. Não o que o creepy disse . Cada vez que algum defensor das EW quer defender a ferramenta é " o creepy disse...!" . Mas afinal , mais ninguem entende de EW pra traçar os seus próprios objectivos e discuti-los ou andam todos atrás do creepy ?!

Eu não entendo muito de EW (ainda) mas percebo que se trata de um método dinâmico com reformulação sistemática dos diversos cenários (bears e bulls) há medida que os anteriores vão ficando sem efeito. É natural que origine vários valores de referência que até podem ganhar extrema importância em zonas de suporte ou de resistência e ainda mais quando são complementados com sinais de outros indicadores.

É claro que, na ausência de targets para um dado movimento, apontando-se simplesmente intervalos de valores para zonas de resistência e de suporte, seguindo uma tendência duradoura, é muito mais fácil não gerar polémicas.

O teu segundo post , já é completamente diferente do primeiro .
Cheio de informação e bastante interessante . E vejo que reconheces aí nas EW uma ferramenta que aponta cenários , que podem ou não acertar .

Se o discurso sobre as EW fosse sempre assim , aposto que não haveriam discussões e quem sabe, não haveria um certo interesse por mais informação .

jotabilo, eu não estou a discutir contra "eles todos" ; Porque hoje sou eu, amanhã é outro ,no passado foram uma porrada deles , que andamos aqui a discutir algo que , mais do que se as EW são uma boa ferramenta, passa pela forma de apresentação das EW ( que podem ser interessantes e uteis, mas não são "guias dos Mercados ", como já as vi aqui a serem apresentadas ).





Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

[assunoadr]

Eu não entendo muito de EW (ainda) mas percebo que se trata de um método dinâmico com reformulação sistemática dos diversos cenários (bears e bulls) há medida que os anteriores vão ficando sem efeito. É natural que origine vários valores de referência que até podem ganhar extrema importância em zonas de suporte ou de resistência e ainda mais quando são complementados com sinais de outros indicadores.

É claro que, na ausência de targets para um dado movimento, apontando-se simplesmente intervalos de valores para zonas de resistência e de suporte, seguindo uma tendência duradoura, é muito mais fácil não gerar polémicas.

AA

[assunoadr]

Parece que o tópico está outra vez descambar.

Basta olhar trás para perceber que o creepy até tem sido bastante coerente. Quando o S&P caiu até aos 870 e activou o falso H&S, foi ele que defendeu a expanded flat até aos 965 como target mínimo ("não duvidem do poder de uma expanded flat").

AA

[The Mechanic]

salvadorveiga

desde ha 6 meses atras? LOL

Acho melhor ires ao antigo topico do SPX por alturas de Fevereiro Março quando mtos EW nem esperavam minimos, ou melhor que os minimos estavam perto e que seguidamente haveria um grande minibull de 6-9 meses.

...quando mtos EW nem esperavam,...
...ou melhor que os minimos estavam perto...
...seguidamente haveria um grande minibull ...

LOL. Esperavam...estava perto..seria...
ok. Afinal, convenceste-me.

Ms isso ng se lembra...

Nem disso, nem do que o Nostradamus disse .

pelo discurso que acabaste de fazer ve-se que pouco te deste ao trabalho de investigar... ao menos quem critique que investigue as regras e entao aponte as falhas, que as há obviamente... o que dizes de ir aos 8 ou la o q e' e se n for passa a A se for passa a 4 da 5 whatever totalmente errado... again se quiseres criticar familiariza-te com as regras, eu concerteza não o farei por ti, mas falar de cor sem saber o q está a falar...

Ó Salvador , é claro que não li livros de EW , nem estou a discutir a mecânica das EW . Nem pretendo . Estou a discutir a parte visivel . E a parte visivel pra mim, são os numeros . E ainda não vi as EW acertar em nenhum. Cada meta que traçam, falha redondamente . Por isso, não me venhas falar que "diziam em Fevereiro que ,iria haver um mini-bull, em breve" . Isso são conjecturas . E não é preciso EW para as fazer . Quando se trata de colocar numeros no papel e chegarem-se à frente com eles, as EW têm falhado !!

O resto é conversa. Eu não preciso entender as EW pra saber que os numeros que vocês apontam pra inversões e correcções não se têm verificado .


E a questão aqui , nem é a ferramenta em si,como dizia ao ljbk . Essa pode falhar, claro !...como falham todas as outras ( ou isto de investir , tornar-se-ia uma ciencia exacta ). A questão é exactamente coisas como o que tu disseste agora e foste buscar ...há meses e meses atrás:

Acho melhor ires ao antigo topico do SPX por alturas de Fevereiro Março quando mtos EW nem esperavam minimos, ou melhor que os minimos estavam perto e que seguidamente haveria um grande minibull de 6-9 meses.

Entretanto muitas outras metas foram previstas e nenhuma acertou.

... como se as EW fossem algo de trancendental que prevê o rumo dos Mercados . Nada!, consegue prever o rumo dos Mercados .Podes tentar e acertar muitas vezes . Mas não esperes ter encontrado o que muitos antes de ti já tentaram e não conseguiram .


Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

[salvadorveiga]

Midas, o Zeitgeist e' um pouco....

E' um documentario para ver com olho critico visto que tem inumeras coisas erradas...

Para documentarios desse tipo vale o www.chrismartenson.com Crash Course que tem bom teor economico e fundamentato e correcto... deste tipo de videos e' o unico q recomendo mesmo

[Dwer]

ok...
Depois da passagem da AT para AF;
Depois da formação relâmpago em economia na Áustria;
Depois da conversão à Igreja da Libertação dos profetas Mises&Hayek;

Só faltava a grande teoria da conspiração sionista!

Isto é melhor que um filme...

[Midas]

Gosto do primeiro, mas gostei mais do segundo.

Aconselho a verem e repassarem aos vossos amigos.

http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/add_portug.htm

[salvadorveiga]

ljbk ,

Exactamente e plenamente de acordo contigo .São uma teoria como há muitas outras . São uma ferramenta que cada um poderá utilizar e obter , ou não ,os seus resultados . Tal como o MACD, RSI, Figuras, gráficos , etc. Até aqui, é indiscutivel .

Eu só não gosto do estilo Dogmático com que é apresentado muitas vezes, como se fosse o Santo Graal do Trading ( e nem é o caso do creepy, que até é bastante humilde nesse aspecto ).

E nem acho clara a maneira como os apreciadores das EW aqui demonstram as suas ideias.

Se eu te colocar um gráfico com uma LTA e disser que a cotação pode ir até ali aos 8,20 ... é aquilo. Aconteça ou não! Se lá for aconteceu . Se não for é porque falhou ! As EW , dá a ideia que se chegar aos 8,20...acertam . Se não ,"inicia-se a onda 4" . Se estiver lá perto , afinal é o "a" de 5ª ...!!! ...se passar ,então já é afinal e onda 2 de "A"...?! Eu ainda não consegui entender então pra que serve !! Eu ainda não vi dois de vocês defender a mesma coisa !!! Parece que andam todos à deriva..!

Entendes ?! Não é nada pessoal . Tu vês aqui pessoal a fazer AT a uma acção . São inumeros os casos que um diz : " a Brisa pode chegar aos 7,00 se passar a resistência dos 6,80" ; outro dir-te-á " vejo um canal que poderá levar a Brisa aos 7,10 ..."e outro dir-te-á " buy point nos 7,05 ,"...isto é , tu sabes que há um concenso naquela zona ou cotação .É claro pra todos qual o objectivo ( e nem precisas entender o método ).

As EW tem servido pra justificar "novos minimos" desde há 6 meses atrás e isto só faz é subir .E eu não vejo o pessoal a dizer " afinal , isto não era bem assim...", mas antes " os minimos estão a caminho, só que afinal a onda de 4 é que ainda não chegou, pois afinal era uma "A" da 3 ...!!
Se não há um consenso geral entre os utilizadores de EW , então como esperam convencer os leigos como eu ?!!?

E aí eu coloco as minhas duvidas ou o meu desagrado em relação ao método .

Mas nada pessoal, volto a dizer ...


Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

desde ha 6 meses atras? LOL

Acho melhor ires ao antigo topico do SPX por alturas de Fevereiro Março quando mtos EW nem esperavam minimos, ou melhor que os minimos estavam perto e que seguidamente haveria um grande minibull de 6-9 meses.

Ms isso ng se lembra... pelo discurso que acabaste de fazer ve-se que pouco te deste ao trabalho de investigar... ao menos quem critique que investigue as regras e entao aponte as falhas, que as há obviamente... o que dizes de ir aos 8 ou la o q e' e se n for passa a A se for passa a 4 da 5 whatever totalmente errado... again se quiseres criticar familiariza-te com as regras, eu concerteza não o farei por ti, mas falar de cor sem saber o q está a falar...

[meskit]

Quem tiver tempo também vale a pena ler este texto sobre a famíia Rothschild. É um bocado grande, sorry. Leiam que vão ver as coisas há vossa volta por outro prisma que chega a ser assustador!

Saudações e Lucros,
Meskit



The Rothschilds have been in control of the world for a very long time, their tentacles reaching into many aspects of our daily lives, as is documented in the following timeline. However, before you jump to the timeline, please read this invaluable introduction which will tell you who the Rothschilds are as oppose to who they claim to be. The Rothschilds claim that they are Jewish, when in fact they are Khazars. They are from a country called Khazaria, which occupied the land locked between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea which is now predominantly occupied by Georgia. The reason the Rothschilds claim to be Jewish is that the Khazars under the instruction of the King, converted to the Jewish faith in 740 A.D., but of course that did not include converting their Asiatic Mongolian genes to the genes of the Jewish people.
You will find that approximately 90% of people in the world today who call themselves Jews are actually Khazars, or as they like to be known, Ashkenazi Jews. These people knowingly lie to the world with their claims that the land of Israel is theirs by birthright, when in actual fact their real homeland is over 800 miles away in Georgia.
So, next time you hear an Israeli Prime Minister bleating about the so-called persecution of the Jews, consider this, every Prime Minister of Israel has been an Ashkenazi Jew. Therefore when all these Prime Ministers have curried favour with the West for their re-establishment of a Jewish homeland, they have knowingly and deliberately lied to you, as they were never from that region, and they well know it, because it is they who call themselves Ashkenazi Jews.
The Book of Revelation, Chapter 2, Verse 9, states the following which would appear to be about these Ashkenazi Jews:

"I know thy works, and tribulation and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan."

The most wealthy bloodline in the world bar none and the leader of the Ashkenazi Jews in the world today is the Rothschild family. As you will see in the timeline, the Rothschilds have obtained this position through lies, manipulation and murder. Their bloodline also extends into the Royal Families of Europe, and the following family names: Astor; Bundy; Collins; duPont; Freeman; Kennedy; Morgan; Oppenheimer; Rockefeller; Sassoon; Schiff; Taft; and Van Duyn. However, these are not the only bloodlines to worry about. You are probably aware of the centuries old pratice undertaken by many Ashkenazi Jews whereby they would change their name, in order for them to appear part of the dominant race of the country in which they lived, so as they could obtain influential positions in that country, which they would then exploit to serve their real masters elsewhere. There is plenty of evidence to prove the Rothschilds continue that deceptive tradition.
Furthermore the Rothschilds are known to sire many children secretly that they can put into positions of power when required. This started with the very first man who took the name Rothschild, who had a secret sixth son. Finally, remember the world is a diverse place, I could if I wanted change my name to Rothschild, or any of the names listed above, and that would not make me part of this family anymore than converting to Judaism in 740 A.D. will make these Ashkenazis Jewish.
Please, therefore, do not automatically assume someone you see with the name Rothschild or any of the names listed above are part of the Rothschild criminal network. Furthermore and most importantly, the majority of Ashkenazi Jews are innocent and not part of this network. Check the facts out for yourself first, this article is designed to inform people who the enemy is, not single out people of a particular race or people with a particular surname, who may have nothing to do with this Rothschild criminal network.

1743: Mayer Amschel Bauer, an Ashkenazi Jew, is born in Frankfurt, Germany, the son of Moses Amschel Bauer, a money lender and the proprietor of a counting house.
Moses Amschel Bauer places a red sign above the entrance door to his counting house. This sign is a red hexagram (which geometrically and numerically translates into the number 666) which under Rothschild instruction will end up on the Israeli flag some two centuries later.
1753: Gutle Schnaper, an Ashkenazi Jew (future wife of Mayer Amschel Bauer), born to respected merchant, Wolf Salomon Schnaper.
1760: During this decade Mayer Amschel Bauer works for a bank owned by the Oppenheimers' in Hanover, Germany. He is highly successful and becomes a junior partner. Whilst working at the bank he becomes acquainted with General von Estorff.
Following his father's death, Bauer returns to Frankfurt to take over his father's business. Bauer recognises the significance of the red hexagram and changes his name from Bauer to Rothschild, after the red hexagram or sign signifying 666 hanging over the entrance door ("Rot," is German for, "Red," "Schild," is German for, "Sign").
Now Mayer Amschel Rothschild, he discovers that General von Estorff is now attached to the court of Prince William IX of Hesse-Hanau, one of the richest royal houses in Europe, which gained its' wealth by the hiring out of Hessian soldiers to foreign countries for vast profits (a practice that continues today in the form of exporting, "peacekeeping," troops throughout the world).
He therefore makes the General's re-acquaintance on the pretext of selling him valuable coins and trinkets at discounted prices. As he plans, Rothschild is subsequently introduced to Prince William himself who is more than pleased with discounted prices he charges for his rare coins and trinkets, and Rothschild offers him a bonus for any other business the Prince can direct his way.
Rothschild subsequently becomes close associates with Prince William, and ends up doing business with him and members of the court. He soon discovers that loaning money to governments and royalty is more profitable than loaning to individuals, as the loans are bigger and are secured by the nation's taxes.
1769: Mayer Amschel Rothschild is given permission by Prince William to hang a sign on the front of his business premises declaring that he is, "M. A. Rothschild, by appointment court factor to his serene highness, Prince William of Hanau."
1770: Mayer Amschel Rothschild draws up plans for the creation of the Illuminati and entrusts Ashkenazi Jew, Adam Weishaupt, a Crypto-Jew who was outwardly Roman Catholic, with its organization and development. The Illuminati is to be based upon the teachings of the Talmud, which is in turn, the teachings of Rabbinical Jews. It was to be called the Illuminati as this is a Luciferian term which means, keepers of the light.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild marries Gutle Schnaper.
1773: Amschel Mayer Rothschild born, the first of Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s sons. He like all his brothers who follow him, will enter the family business at the age of 12.
1774: Salomon Mayer Rothschild born.
1776: Adam Weishaupt officially completes his organisation of the Illuminati on May 1 of this year. The purpose of the Illuminati is to divide the goyim (all non-Jews) through political, economic, social, and religious means. The opposing sides were to be armed and incidents were to be provided in order for them to: fight amongst themselves; destroy national governments; destroy religious institutions; and eventually destroy each other.
Weishaupt soon infiltrates the Continental Order of Freemasons with this Illuminati doctrine and establishes lodges of the Grand Orient to be their secret headquarters. This was all under the orders and finance of Mayer Amschel Rothschild and the concept has spread and is followed within Masonic Lodges worldwide to the present day.
Weishaupt also recruits 2,000 paid followers including the most intelligent men in the field of arts and letters, education, science, finance,and industry. They were instructed to follow the following methods in order to control people.

1) Use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of men already in high places, in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavour. Once influential persons had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and fiscal harm, even death to themselves and loved members of their families. 2) The faculties of colleges and universities were to cultivate students possessing exceptional mental ability belonging to well-bred families with international leanings, and recommend them for special training in internationalism, or rather the notion that only a one-world government can put an end to recurring wars and strife. Such training was to be provided by granting scholarships to those selected by the Illuminati.
3) All influential people trapped into coming under the control of the Illuminati, plus the students who had been specially educated and trained, were to be used as agents and placed behind the scenes of all governments as experts and specialists. This was so they would advise the top executives to adopt policies which would in the long-run serve the secret plans of the Illuminati one-world conspiracy and bring about the destruction of the governments and religions they were elected or appointed to serve.
4) To obtain absolute-control of the press, at that time the only mass-communications media which distributed information to the public, so that all news and information could be slanted in order to make the masses believe that a one-world government is the only solution to our many and varied problems.

1777: Nathan Mayer Rothschild born. 1784: Adam Weishaupt issues his order for the French Revolution to be started by by Maximilien Robespierre in book form. This book was written by one of Weishaupt's associates, Xavier Zwack, and sent by courier from Frankfurt to Paris. However en route there, the courier is struck by lightning, the book detailing this plan discovered by the police, and handed over to the Bavarian authorities.
As a consequence, the Bavarian government orders the police to raid Weishaupt's masonic lodges of the Grand Orient, and the homes of his most influential associates. Clearly, the Bavarian authorities were convinced that the book that was discovered was a very real threat by a private group of influential people, to use wars and revolutions to achieve their political ends.
1785: The Bavarian government outlaw the Illuminati and close all the Bavarian lodges of the Grand Orient.
Mayer Amschel Rothschild moves his family home to a five storey house in Frankfurt which he shares with the Schiff family.
1786: The Bavarian government publish the details of the Illuminati plot in a document entitled, "The Original Writings of The Order and Sect of The Illuminati." They then send this document to all the heads of church and state throughout Europe, but sadly their warning is ignored.
1788: Kalmann (Carl) Mayer Rothschild Born.
1789: Due to the European ignorance of the Bavarian government's warning, the Illuminati's plan for a French Revolution succeeded from this year to 1793. This revolution was a bankers' dream, it established a new constitution and passed laws that forbade the Roman Church from levying tithes (taxes) and also removed its exemption from taxation.
1790: Mayer Amschel Rothschild states,

"Let me issue and control a nation's money and I care not who writes the laws."

1791: The Rothschilds get, "control of a nation's money," through Alexander Hamilton (their agent in George Washington’s cabinet) when they set up a central bank in the USA called the First Bank of the United States. This is established with a 20 year charter. 1792: Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild born.
1796: Amschel Mayer Rothschild marries Eva Hanau.
1798: John Robison publishes a book entitled, "Proofs of a Conspiracy Against All the Religions and Governments of Europe Carried on in the Secret Meetings of Freemasons, Illuminati and Reading Societies." In this book, Professor Robison of the University of Edinburgh, one of the leading intellects of his time, who in 1783 was elected general secretary of the Royal Society of Edinburgh, gave details of the whole Rothschild Illuminati plot.
He advised how he had been a high degree mason in the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry, and had been invited by Adam Weishaupt to Europe, where he had been given a revised copy of Weishaupt's conspiracy. However, although he pretended to go along with it, Professor Robison did not agree with it and therefore published his aforementioned book. The book included details of the Bavarian government's investigation into the Illuminati and the French Revolution.
That same year on July 19th, David Pappen, President of Harvard University, lectured the graduating class on the influence illuminism was having on American politics and religion.
At the age of 21, Nathan Mayer Rothschild leaves Frankfurt for England, where with a large sum of money given to him by his father, he sets up a banking house in London.
1800: Salomon Mayer Rothschild marries Caroline Stern.
1806: Napolean states that it is his,

"object to remove the house of Hess-Cassel from rulership and to strike it out of the list of powers."

On hearing this, Prince William IX of Hesse-Hanau, flees Germany, goes to Denmark and entrusts his fortune valued at $3,000,000 at that time to Mayer Amschel Rothschild for safekeeping. Nathan Mayer Rothschild marries Hannah Barent Cohen the daughter of a wealthy London merchant.
1808: Nathan Mayer Rothschild has his first son born Lionel Nathan de Rothschild.
1810: Sir Francis Baring and Abraham Goldsmid die. This leaves Nathan Mayer Rothschild as the remaining major banker in England.
Salomon Mayer Rothschild goes to Vienna, Austria and sets up the bank, M. von Rothschild und Söhne.
1811: The charter for the Rothschilds Bank of the United States runs out and Congress votes against its renewal. Nathan Mayer Rothschild is not amused and he states,

"Either the application for renewal of the charter is granted, or the United States will find itself involved in a most disastrous war."

However the United States stands firm and the Charter is not renewed, which causes Nathan Mayer Rothschild to issue another threat,

"Teach those impudent Americans a lesson. Bring them back to colonial status."

1812: Backed by Rothschild money, and Nathan Mayer Rothschild's orders, the British declare war on the United States. The Rothschilds plan was to cause the United States to build up such a debt in fighting this war that they would have to surrender to the Rothschilds and allow the charter for the Rothschild owned First Bank of the United States to be renewed. Mayer Amschel Rothschild dies. In his will he lays out specific laws that the House of Rothschild were to follow: all key positions in the family business were only to be held by family members; only male members of the family were allowed to participate in the family business, this included a reported sixth secret bastard son (It is important to note that Mayer Amschel Rothschild also has five daughters, so today the spread of the Rothschild Zionist dynasty without the Rothschild name is far and wide, and Jews believe the mixed offspring of a Jewish mother is solely Jewish); the family was to intermarry with it’s first and second cousins to preserve the family fortune (of the 18 marriages by Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s grandchildren, 16 were between first cousins - a practice known today as inbreeding); no public inventory of his estate was to be published; no legal action was to be taken with regard to the value of the inheritance; the eldest son of the eldest son was to become the head of the family (this condition could only be overturned when the majority of the family agreed otherwise).
This was straightaway the case and Nathan Mayer Rothschild was elected head of the family following his father, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s death.
Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild goes to Paris, France to set up the bank, de Rothschild Frères.
Nathaniel de Rothschild, the son in law of Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild, born.
1814: With regard to the $3,000,000 Prince William IX of Hesse-Hanau had entrusted to Mayer Amschel Rothschild for safekeeping, for an account of what happened next we turn to the Jewish Encyclopaedia, 1905 edition, Volume 10, page 494, which states,

"According to legend this money was hidden away in wine casks, and, escaping the search of Napoleon's soldiers when they entered Frankfurt, was restored intact in the same casks in 1814, when the elector (Prince William IX of Hesse-Hanau) returned to the electorate (Germany). The facts are somewhat less romantic, and more businesslike."

This last line indicates the money was never returned by Rothschild to Prince William IX of Hesse-Hanau. The encyclopaedia goes on to state,

"Nathan Mayer Rothschild invested this $3,000,000 in, gold from the East India Company knowing that it would be needed for Wellington's peninsula campaign."

On the stolen money Nathan made,

"no less than four profits:

i) On the sale of Wellington's paper which he bought at 50 cents on the dollar and collected at par;
ii) on the sale of gold to Wellington;
iii) on its repurchase; and
iv) on forwarding it to Portugal."

1815: The five Rothschild brothers work to supply gold to both Wellington's army (through Nathan in England) and Napoleon's army (through Jacob in France), and begin their policy of funding both sides in wars. The Rothschilds love wars because they are massive generators of risk free debt. This is because they are guaranteed by the government of a country, and therefore the efforts of the population of that country, and it doesn't matter if that country loses the war because the loans are given on the guarantee that the victor will honour the debts of the vanquished.
Whilst the Rothschilds are funding both sides in this war, they use the banks they have spread out across Europe to give them the opportunity to set up an unrivalled postal service network of secret routes and fast couriers. The post these couriers carried was to be opened up by these couriers and their details given to the Rothschilds so they always were one step ahead of current events.
Furthermore, these Rothschild couriers were the only merchants allowed to pass through the English and French blockades. It was these couriers who also kept Nathan Mayer Rothschild up to date with how the war was going so he could use that intelligence to buy and sell from his position on the stock exchange in accordance with that intelligence.
One of Rothschild's couriers was a man named Rothworth. When the outcome of the Battle of Waterloo was won by the British, Rothworth took off for the Channel and was able to deliver this news to Nathan Mayer Rothschild, a full 24 hours before Wellington's own courier.
At that time British bonds were called consuls and they were traded on the floor of the stock exchange. Nathan Mayer Rothschild instructed all his workers on the floor to start selling consuls. The made all the other traders believe that the British had lost the war so they started selling frantically.
Therefore the consuls plummeted in value which was when Nathan Mayer Rothschild discreetly instructed his workers to purchase all the consuls they could lay their hands on.
When news came through that the British had actually won the war, the consuls went up to a level even higher than before the war ended leaving Nathan Mayer Rothschild with a return of approximately 20 to 1 on his investment.
This gave the Rothschild family complete control of the British economy, now the financial centre of the world following Napolean's defeat, and forced England to set up a new Bank of England, which Nathan Mayer Rothschild controlled.
Interestingly 100 years later the New York Times would run a story stating that Nathan Mayer Rothschild's grandson had attempted to secure a court order to suppress publication of a book which had this insider trading story in it. The Rothschild family claimed the story was untrue and libellous, but the court denied the Rothschilds request and ordered the family to pay all court costs.
Back to 1815, this is the year Nathan Mayer Rothschild makes his famous statement,

"I care not what puppet is placed upon the throne of England to rule the Empire on which the sun never sets. The man who controls Britain's money supply controls the British Empire, and I control the British money supply."

He would go onto brag that in the 17 years he had been in England he had increased the £20,000 stake given to him by his father, 2500 times to £50 million. The Rothschilds also use their control of the Bank of England to replace the method of shipping gold from country to country and instead used their five banks spread across Europe to set up a system of paper debits and credits, the banking system of today.
By the end of this century, a period of time that was known as the, "Age of the Rothschilds," it is estimated that the Rothschild family controlled half the wealth of the world.
However something that did not go well for the Rothschilds this year was the Congress of Vienna, which started in September, 1814 and concluded in June of this year. The reason for this Congress of Vienna, was for the Rothschilds to create a form of world government, to give them complete political control over much of the civilized world.
Many of the European governments were in debt to the Rothschilds, so they figured they could use that as a bargaining tool. However the Tsar Alexander I of Russia, who had not succumbed to a Rothschild central bank, would not go along with the plan, so the Rothschild world government plan failed.
Enraged by this, Nathan Mayer Rothschild swore that some day he or his descendants would destroy the Tsar Alexander I's entire family and descendants. Unfortunately he was true to his word and 102 years later Rothschild funded Bolsheviks would act upon that promise.
Interestingly, world government fanatic and Ashkenazi Jew, Henry Kissinger, did his doctoral dissertation on the Congress of Vienna.
1816: The American Congress passes a bill permitting yet another Rothschild dominated central bank, which gives the Rothschilds control of the American money supply again. This is called the Second Bank of the United States and is given a twenty year charter. The British war against the America therefore ends with the deaths of thousands of British and American soldiers, but the Rothschilds get their bank.
1818: Following the French securing massive loans in 1817 in order to help rebuild after their disastrous defeat at Waterloo, Rothschild agents bought vast amounts of French government bonds causing their value to increase.
On November 5th they dumped the lot on the open market causing their value to plummet and France to go into a financial panic. The Rothschilds then stepped in to take control of the French money supply. This was the same year the Rothschilds were able to loan £5,000,000 to the Prussian government.
1821: Kalmann (Carl) Mayer Rothschild was sent to Naples, Italy. He would end up doing a lot of business with the Vatican and Pope Gregory XVI subsequently conferred upon him the Order of St. George.
Also, whenever the Pope received Kalmann, he would give him his hand rather than the customary toe to kiss, which showed the extent of Kalmann's power over the Vatican.
1822: The emperor of Austria made the five Rothschild brothers Barons. Nathan Mayer Rothschild chose not to take up the title.
1823: The Rothschilds take over the financial operations of the Catholic Church, worldwide.
1827: Sir Walter Scott publishes his nine volume set, The life of Napolean and in volume two he states that the French Revolution was planned by the Illuminati (Adam Weishaupt) and was financed by the money changers of Europe (The Rothschilds).
1832: President Andrew Jackson (the 7th President of the United States from 1829 to 1837), runs the campaign for his second term in office under the slogan, "Jackson And No Bank!" This is in reference to his plan to take the control of the American money system to benefit the American people, not for the profiteering of the Rothschilds.
1833: President Andrew Jackson starts removing the government's deposits from the Rothschild controlled, Second Bank of the United States and instead deposits them into banks directed by democratic bankers.
This causes the Rothschilds to panic and so they do what they do best, contract the money supply causing a depression. President Jackson knows what they are up to and later states,

"You are a den of thieves vipers, and I intend to rout you out, and by the Eternal God, I will rout you out."

1834: The Italian revolutionary leader, Guiseppe Mazzini, is selected by the Illuminati to direct their revolutionary program throughout the world and would serve in that capacity until he died in 1872. 1835: On January 30, an assassin tries to shoot President Jackson, but miraculously both of the assassin's pistols misfired. President Jackson would later claim that he knew the Rothschilds were responsible for that attempted assassination. He is not the only one, the assassin, Richard Lawrence, who was found not guilty by reason of insanity, later bragged that powerful people in Europe had hired him and promised to protect him if he were caught.
The Rothschilds acquire the rights in the Almadén quicksilver mines in Spain. This was at the time the biggest concession in the world and as quicksilver was a vital component in the refining of gold or silver this gave the Rothschilds a virtual world monopoly.
1836: Following his years of fighting against the Rothschilds and their central bank in America, President Andrew Jackson finally succeeds in throwing the Rothschilds central bank out of America, when the bank's charter is not renewed. It would not be until 1913 that the Rothschilds would be able to set up their third central bank in America, the Federal Reserve, and to ensure no mistakes are made, this time they will put one of their own bloodline, Jacob Schiff, in charge of the project.
Nathan Mayer Rothschild dies and the control of his bank, N. M. Rothschild & Sons is passed on to his younger brother, James Mayer Rothschild.
1837: The Rothschilds send one of their own, August Belmont, an Ashkenazi Jew, to America to salvage their banking interests defeated by President Andrew Jackson.
1840: The Rothschilds become the Bank of England’s bullion brokers. They set up agencies in California and Australia.
1841: President John Tyler (the 10th President of the United States From 1841 to 1845) vetoed the act to renew the charter for the Bank of the United States. He goes on to receive hundreds of letters threatening him with assassination.
1844: Salomon Mayer Rothschild purchases the United Coal Mines of Vítkovice and Austro-Hungarian Blast Furnace Company that would go on to be one of the top ten global industrial concerns.
Benjamin Disraeli, an Ashkenazi Jew (who would go on to become British Prime Minister twice - the only admitted Ashkenazi Jew to do so) publishes Coningsby, in which he characterises Nathan Mayer Rothschild as,

"the Lord and Master of the money markets of the world, and of course virtually Lord and Master of everything else. He literally held the revenues of Southern Italy in pawn, and Monarchs and Ministers of all countries courted his advice and were guided by his suggestions."

1845: The Great American Patriot, Andrew Jackson (7th President of the United States) dies. Before his death he is asked what he regarded his as greatest achievement. He replies without hesitation,

"I Killed The Bank,"

This is in reference to the fact he banished the Rothschilds Second Bank of the United States in 1836. Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild (who by now had married his niece, Betty, Salomon Mayer Rothschild's daughter), now known as Baron James de Rothschild, wins the contract to build the first major railway line across the country.
This was called the Chemin De Fer Du Nord and ran initially from Paris to Valenciennes and then joined with the Austrian rail network built by his brother (and wife's father - all sounds a bit sordid doesn't it) Salomon Mayer Rothschild.
1847: Lionel De Rothschild now married to the daughter of his uncle, Kalmann (Carl) Mayer Rothschild, is elected to the parliamentary seat for the City of London.
A requirement for entering parliament was to take an oath in the true faith of a Christian. Lionel De Rothschild refused to do this as he was Jewish and his seat in parliament remained empty for 11 years until new oaths were allowed. He must have been an invaluable representative for his constituency, bearing in mind he could never vote on any bill as he never entered parliament! I wonder how he managed to keep his parliamentary seat for 11 years?
1848: Karl Marx, an Ashkenazi Jew, publishes, "The Communist Manifesto." Interestingly at the same time as he is working on this, Karl Ritter of Frankfurt University was writing the antithesis which would form the basis for Freidrich Wilhelm Nietzsche's, "Nietzscheanism." This Nietzecheanism was later developed into Fascism and then into Nazism and was used to forment the first and second world wars.
Marx, Ritter, and Nietzsche were all funded and under the instruction of the Rothschilds. The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies to enable them to divide larger and larger factions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other, and particularly, to destroy all political and religious institutions. The same plan put forward by Weishaupt in 1776.
Eva Hanau, Amschel Mayer Rothschild’s wife dies.
1849: Gutle Schnaper, Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s wife dies. Before her death she would nonchalantly state,

"If my sons did not want wars, there would be none."

1850: Construction begins this decade on the manor houses of Mentmore in England and Ferrières in France, more Rothschilds Manors will follow throughout the world, all of them filled with works of art. Jacob (James) Rothschild in France is said to be worth 600 million francs, which at the time was 150 million francs more than all the other bankers in France put together.
1852: N.M. Rothschild & Sons begins refining gold and silver for the Royal Mint and the Bank of England and other international customers.
1853: Nathaniel de Rothschild, the son in law of Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild, purchases Château Brane Mouton, the Bordeaux vineyard of Mouton, and renames it Château Mouton Rothschild.
1854: Caroline Stern, Salomon Mayer Rothschild’s wife, dies.
1855: Amschel Mayer Rothschild dies.
Salomon Mayer Rothschild dies.
Kalmann (Carl) Mayer Rothschild dies.
1858: Lionel De Rothschild finally takes his seat in parliament when the requirement to take an oath in the true faith of a Christian is broadened to include other oaths. He becomes the first Jewish member of the British parliament.
1861: President Abraham Lincoln (16th President of the United States from 1860 till his assassination in 1865) approaches the big banks in New York to try to obtain loans to support the ongoing American civil war. As these large banks were heavily under the influence of the Rothschilds, they offer him a deal they know he cannot accept, 24% to 36% interest on all monies loaned.
Lincoln is very angry about this high level of interest and so he prints his own debt free money and informs the public that this is now legal tender for both public and private debts.
1862: By April $449,338,902 worth of Lincoln’s debt free money has been printed and distributed. He states of this,

“We gave the people of this republic the greatest blessing they ever had, their own paper money to pay their own debts.”

That same year The Times of London publishes a story containing the following statement,

"If that mischievous financial policy, which had its origin in the North American Republic, should become indurated down to a fixture, then that government will furnish its own money without cost. It will pay off debts and be without a debt. It will have all the money necessary to carry on its commerce.

It will become prosperous beyond precedent in the history of civilized governments of the world. The brains and the wealth of all countries will go to North America. That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the globe."

1863: President Abraham Lincoln discovers the Tsar of Russia, Alexander II (1855 – 1881), was having problems with the Rothschilds as well as he was refusing their continual attempts to set up a central bank in Russia. The Tsar then gives President Lincoln some unexpected help. The Tsar issued orders that if either England or France actively intervened in the American Civil War, and help the South, Russia would consider such action a declaration of war, and take the side of President Lincoln. To show that he wasn't messing about, he sent part of his Pacific Fleet to port in San Francisco and another part to New York.
The Rothschild banking house in Naples, Italy, C. M. de Rothschild e figli, closes following the unification of Italy. The Rothschilds use one of their own in America, John D. Rockefeller, to form an oil business called Standard Oil which eventually takes over all of its competition.
1864: Rothschild, August Belmont, who by now is the Democratic Party's National Chairman, supports General George McClellan as the Democratic nominee to run against President Abraham Lincoln in this year's election. Much to the anger of Belmont, President Lincoln wins the election.
1865: In a statement to Congress, President Abraham Lincoln states,

"I have two great enemies, the Southern Army in front of me, and the financial institutions in the rear. Of the two, the one in my rear is my greatest foe."

Later that year, on April 14, President Lincoln is assassinated, less than two months before the end of the American Civil War. Following a brief training period in the Rothschilds London Bank, Jacob Schiff, a Rothschild, born in their house in Frankfurt, arrives in America at the age of 18, with instructions and the finance necessary to buy into a banking house there. The purpose of this was to carry out the following tasks.

1. Gain control of America's money system through the establishment of a central bank.
2. Find desirable men, who for a price, would be willing to serve as stooges for the Illuminati and promote them into high places in the federal government, the Congress, Supreme Court, and all the federal agencies.
3. Create minority group strife throughout the nations, particularly targeting the whites and blacks.
4. Create a movement to destroy religion in the United States, with Christianity as the main target.

Nathaniel de Rothschild becomes Member of Parliament for Aylesbury in Buckinghamshire. 1868: Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild dies, shortly after purchasing Château Lafite, one of the four great premier grand cru estates of France. He is the last of Mayer Amschel Rothschild’s sons to die.
1870: Nathaniel de Rothschild dies.
1871: An American General named, Albert Pike, who had been enticed into the Illuminati by Guissepe Mazzini, completes his military blueprint for three world wars and various revolutions throughout the world, culminating into moving this great conspiracy into its final stage.
The first world war is to be fought for the purpose of destroying the Tsar in Russia,as promised by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. The Tsar is to be replaced with communism which is to be used to attack religions, predominantly Christianity. The differences between the British and German empires are to be used to forment this war.
The second world war is to be used to forment the controversy between facism and political zionism with the slaughter of Jews in Germany a lynchpin in bringing hatred against the German people. This is designed to destroy fascism (which the Rothschilds created) and increase the power of political zionism. This war is also designed to increase the power of communism to the level that it equalled that of united Christendom.
The third world war is to be played out by stirring up hatred of the Muslim world for the purposes of playing the Islamic world and the political zionists off against one another. Whilst this is going on, the remaining nations would be forced to fight themselves into a state of mental, physical, spiritual and economic exhaustion.
On August 15th of this year, Albert Pike writes a letter (now catalogued in the British Museum) to Guiseppe Mazzini in which he states the following,

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil.

Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world minority of the world revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."

Pike, who having been elected as Sovereign Grand Commander of the Scottish Rite of Freemasonry's Southern Jurisdiction in 1859, was the most powerful Freemason in America. He would retain that post for 32 years until his death in 1891. He also published a book on the subject in 1872 entitled, "Morals and Dogma of the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of Freemasonry," in which he candidly states the following,

"LUCIFER, the Light-bearer! Strange and mysterious name to give to the Spirit of Darknesss! Lucifer, the Son of the Morning! Is it he who bears the Light, and with its splendors intolerable blinds feeble, sensual or selfish Souls? Doubt it not!"

1872: Prior to Guiseppe Mazzini's death this year, he makes another revolutionary leader named Adrian Lemmy his successor. Lemmy will be subsequently succeeded by Lenin and Trotsky, then by Stalin. The revolutionary activities of all these men are financed by the Rothschilds. 1873: The loss making Rio Tinto copper mines in Spain, are purchased by a group of foreign financiers including the Rothschilds. These mines represented Europe’s largest source of copper.
1875: On January 1 of this year Jacob Schiff, now Solomon Loeb's son-in-law after marrying his daughter, Teresa, takes control of the banking house, Kuhn, Loeb & Co. He goes on to finance John D. Rockefeller's Standard Oil Company, Edward R. Harriman's Railroad Empire, and Andrew Carnegie's Steel Empire. This is all with Rothschild money.
He then identifies the other largest bankers in America at that time. They are, J.P. Morgan who controls Wall Street, and the Drexels and the Biddles of Philadelphia. All the other financiers, big and little, danced to the music of those three houses. Schiff then gets the European Rothschilds to set up European branches of these three large banks on the understanding that Schiff, and therefore Rothschild, is to be the boss of banking in New York and therefore America.
N M Rothschild & Sons undertake a share issue to raise capital for the first channel tunnel project to link France to England, with half of its capital coming from the Rothschild owned Compagnie du Chemin de Fer du Nord.
This year Lionel De Rothschild also loans Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli the finance for the British government to purchase the shares in the Suez Canal, from Khedive Said of Egypt. This was done as the Rothschilds needed this access route to be held by a government they controlled, so they could use that government's military to protect their huge business interests in the Middle East.
1876: Otto von Bismarck states,

"The division of the United States into two federations of equal force was decided long before the civil war by the high financial power of Europe. These bankers were afraid that the United States, if they remained in one block and as one nation, would attain economical and financial independence, which would upset their financial domination over the world.

The voice of the Rothschilds predominated. They foresaw the tremendous booty if they could substitute two feeble democracies, indebted to the financiers, to the vigorous Republic, confident and self-providing. Therefore they started their emissaries in order to exploit the question of slavery and thus dig an abyss between the two parts of the Republic."

1879: Lionel de Rothschild dies. 1880: Rothschild agents begin formenting a series of pogroms predominantly in Russia, but also in Poland, Bulgaria and Romania. These pogroms resulted in the slaughter of thousands of innocent Jews, causing approximately 2 million to flee, mainly to New York, but also to Chicago, Philadelphia, Boston and Los Angeles.
The reason these pogroms were initiated, was to create a large Jewish base in America, who when they arrived, would be educated to register as Democrat voters. Some twenty years later, this would result in in a massive Democratic power base in the United States and be used to elect Rothschild front men such as Woodrow Wilson, to the Presidency, to carry out the bidding of the Rothschilds.
1881: President James A. Garfield (The 20th President of the United States who lasted only 100 Days) states two weeks before he is assassinated,

“Whoever controls the volume of money in our country is absolute master of all industry and commerce…and when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top, you will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate.”

Edmond James de Rothschild has a son Maurice de Rothschild. 1883: After 6,000 feet of tunnel in the channel tunnel project being excavated, the British government halt the project citing the fact that it would be a threat to Britain’s security.
1885: Nathaniel Rothschild, son of Lionel De Rothschild, becomes the first Jewish peer and is takes the title of Lord Rothschild.
1886: The French Rothschild bank, de Rothschild Frères obtains substantial amounts of Russia's oil fields and forms the Caspian and Black Sea Petroleum Company, which quickly becomes the world's second largest oil producer.
1887: Opium trafficker in China, Edward Albert Sassoon, marries Aline Caroline de Rothschild, the grand-daughter of Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild. Aline Caroline's father, Gustave, together with his brother, Alphonse, took over the Rothschild's french arm following their father Jacob's death.
The Rothschilds finance the amalgamation of the Kimberley diamond mines in South Africa. They subsequently become the biggest shareholders of this company, De Beers, and mine precious stones in Africa and India.
1888: Noémie Halphen, future wife of Maurice de Rothschild born.
1891: The British Labour Leader makes the following statement on the subject of the Rothschilds,

"This blood-sucking crew has been the cause of untold mischief and misery in Europe during the present century, and has piled up its prodigious wealth chiefly through fomenting wars between States which ought never to have quarrelled. Whenever there is trouble in Europe, wherever rumours of war circulate and men’s minds are distraught with fear of change and calamity you may be sure that a hook-nosed Rothschild is at his games somewhere near the region of the disturbance."

Comments like this worry the Rothschilds and towards the end of the 1800’s they purchase Reuters news agency so they can have some control of the media. 1895: Edmond James de Rothschild the youngest son of Jacob (James) Mayer Rothschild visits Palestine and subsequently supplies the funds to found the first Jewish colonies there, this is to further their long term objective of creating a Rothschild owned country.
1897: The Rothschilds found the Zionist Congress to promote Zionism (a political movement with the sole aim of moving all Jews into a singularly Jewish nation state) and arrange its first meeting in Munich. However due to extreme opposition from local Jews, who are quite happy where they are, this meeting has to be moved to Basle, Switzerland and takes place on 29 August. The meeting is chaired by Ashkenazi Jew, Theodor Herzl, who would state in his diaries,

"It is essential that the sufferings of Jews….become worse….this will assist in realization of our plans….I have an excellent idea….I shall induce anti-Semites to liquidate Jewish wealth….The anti-Semites will assist us thereby in that they will strengthen the persecution and oppression of Jews. The anti-Semites shall be our best friends."

Herzl is subsequently elected President of the Zionist Organisation which adopts the, "Rothschild Red Hexagram or Sign," as the Zionist flag which 51 years later will end up as the flag of Israel. Edward Henry Harriman becomes a director of the Union Pacific Railroad and goes on to take control of the Southern Pacific Railroad. This is all financed by the Rothschilds.
1898: Ferdinand de Rothschild dies.
1901: The Jews from the colonies set up in Palestine by Edmond James de Rothschild, send a delegation to him which tell him,

"If you wish to save the Yishuv (The Jewish settlement) first take your hands from it, and…for once permit the colonists to have the possibility of correcting for themselves what needs correcting."

Edmond James de Rothschild is very angry about this and states,

"I created the Yishuv, I alone. Therefore no men, neither colonists nor organisations have the right to interfere in my plans."

The Rothschild banking house in Frankfurt, Germany, M. A. von Rothschild und Söhne, closes as there is no male Rothschild heir to take it on. 1902: Philippe de Rothschild born.
1905: A group of Rothschild backed Zionist Jews led by Georgi Apollonovich Gapon attempt to overthrow the Tsar in Russia in a Communist Coup. They fail and are forced to flee Russia only to be given refuge in Germany.
The Jewish Encyclopaedia (Vol. 2, p.497) states,

"It is a somewhat curious sequel to the attempt to set up a Catholic competitor to the Rothschilds that at the present time the latter are the guardians of the papal treasure."

1906: The Rothschilds claim that due to growing instability in the region and increasing competition from Rockefeller (the Rockefeller family are Rothschild descendants through a female bloodline) owned Standard Oil, this is why they sell their Caspian and Black Sea Petroleum Company to Royal Dutch and Shell. This is another example of the Rothschilds trying to hide their true wealth. 1907: Rothschild, Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., in a speech to the New York Chamber of Commerce, warns that,

"Unless we have a Central Bank with adequate control of credit resources, this country is going to undergo the most severe and far reaching money panic in its history."

Suddenly America finds itself in the middle of another typical run of the mill Rothschild engineered financial crisis, which ruins as usual ruins the lives of millions of innocent people throughout America and makes billions for the Rothschilds. 1909: Jacob Schiff founds the National Advancement for the Association of the Coloured People (NAACP). This was done to incite black people into roiting, looting and other forms of disorder, in order to cause a rift between the black and white communities. Jewish historian, Howard Sachar, states the following in his book, "A History of the Jews in America,"

"In 1914, Professor Emeritus Joel Spingarn of Columbia University became chairman of the NAACP and recruited for its board such Jewish leaders as Jacob Schiff, Jacob Billikopf, and Rabbi Stephen Wise."

Other Ashkenazi Jew co-founders included Julius Rosenthal, Lillian Wald and Rabbi Emil G. Hirsch. It was not until 1920 that the NAACP appointed its first black president, James Weldon Johnson. Maurice de Rothschild marries Ashkenazi Jew, Noémie Halphen.
1911: Werner Sombart, in his book, "The Jews and Modern Capitalism," stated that from 1820 on, it was the,

"Age of the Rothschild," and concluded that there was, "Only one power in Europe, and that is Rothschild."

1912: In the December issue of, "Truth," magazine, George R. Conroy states of banker Jacob Schiff,

"Mr Schiff is head of the great private banking house of Kuhn, Loeb, and co, which represents the Rothschilds interests on this side of the Atlantic. He has been described as financial strategist and has been for years the financial minister of the great impersonal power known as Standard Oil.

He was hand in glove with the Harrimans, the Goulds, and the Rockefellers in all their railroad enterprises and has become the dominant power in the railroad and financial power of America."

1913: On March 4, Woodrow Wilson is elected the 28th President of the United States. Shortly after he is inaugurated, he is visited in the White House by Ashkenazi Jew, Samuel Untermyer, of law firm, Guggenheim, Untermyer, and Marshall, who tries to blackmail him for the sum of $40,000 in relation to an affair Wilson had whilst he was a professor at Princeton University, with a fellow professor's wife. President Wilson does not have the money, so Untermyer volunteers to pay the $40,000 out of his own pocket to the woman Wilson had had the affair with, on the condition that Wilson promise to appoint to the first vacancy on the United States Supreme Court a nominee to be recommended to President Wilson by Untermyer. Wilson agrees to this.
Jacob Schiff sets up the Anti Defamation League (ADL) in the United States. This organisation is formed to slander anyone who questions or challenges the Rothschild global conspiracy as, "anti-semitic."
Strangely enough, the same year that they do this they also set up their last and current central bank in America, the Federal Reserve. Congressman Charles Lindbergh stated following the passing of the Federal Reserve Act on December 23,

"The Act establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President signs this Bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized.......The greatest crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill."

It is important to note that the Federal Reserve is a private company, it is neither Federal nor does it have any Reserve. It is conservatively estimated that profits exceed $150 billion per year and the Federal Reserve has never once in its history published accounts. 1914: The start of World War I. In this war, the German Rothschilds loan money to the Germans, the British Rothschilds loan money to the British, and the French Rothschilds loan money to the French.
Futhermore, the Rothschilds have control of the three European news agencies, Wolff (est. 1849) in Germany, Reuters (est. 1851) in England, and Havas (est. 1835) in France.
The Rothschilds use Wolff to manipulate the German people into a fervour for war. From around this time, the Rothschilds are rarely reported in the media, because they own the media.
1916: On June 4, Ashkenazi Jew, Louis Dembitz Brandeis is appointed to the Supreme Court of the United States by President Wilson as per his agreed blackmail payment to Samuel Untermyer some three years earlier. Justice Brandeis is also the elected leader of the Executive Committee for Zionist Affairs, a position he has held since 1914.
The middle of World War II. Germany were winning the war as they were being financed by the Rothschilds to a greater extent than France, Italy and England, because Rothschilds, did not want to support the Tsar in Russia, and of course Russia was on the same side as France, Italy and England.
Then a significant event occurred. Germany, although they were winning the war and not one foreign soldier had set foot on their soil, offered armistice to Britain with no requirement of reparations. The Rothschilds were anxious to make sure this didn't happen as they were expecting to make far more money off this war, so they played another card they had up their sleeve.
Whilst the British were considering Germany's offer, Rothschild agent Louis Brandeis sends a Zionist delegation from America to Britain to promise to bring America into the war on the side of the British, provided the British agree to give the land of Palestine to the Rothschilds.
The Rothschilds wanted Palestine for the following reason. They had great business interests in the far east and desired their own state in that area along with their own military which they could use as an aggressor to any state that threatened those interests.
The British subsequently agree to the deal for Palestine and the Zionists in London contact their counterparts in America and inform them of this fact. Suddenly all the major newspapers in America that up to that point had been pro-German turned on Germany running propaganda pieces such as: German soldiers were killing Red Cross Nurses; German soldiers were cutting off babies hands, etc, in order to manipulate the American public against the Germans.
This same year, President Woodrow Wilson, ran a re-election campaign under the slogan, "Re-Elect The Man Who Will Keep Your Sons Out Of The War."
On December 12, Germany and her allies offer peace terms to end the war.
1917: As a result of Germany's offer of peace the Rothschild war machine goes into overdrive in America, spreading propaganda which leads to President Wilson under the instructions of American Zionist leader and Supreme Court Justice, Louis Dembitz Brandeis, reneging on his promise to the electorate and taking America into the first world war on April 6.
As per the Rothschild Zionist promise to the British, to take America into the war, they decide they want something in writing from the British to prove that they will uphold their side of the bargain. The British Foreign Secretary, Arthur James Balfour therefore drafts a letter which is commonly known as the, "Balfour Declaration," which is reprinted below.

Foreign Office November 2nd, 1917
Dear Lord Rothschild,
I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.
His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country.
I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.
Yours sincerely,
Arthur James Balfour

The Rothschilds order the execution by the Bolsheviks they control, of Tsar Nicholas II and his entire family in Russia, even though the Tsar had already abdicated on March 2. This is both to get control of the country and an act of revenge for Tsar Alexander I blocking their world government plan in 1815 at the Congress Of Vienna, and Tsar Alexander II siding with President Abraham Lincoln in 1864. It is extremely important for them to slaughter the entire family including women and children in order to make good on the promise to do so made by Nathan Mayer Rothschild in 1815. It is designed to show the world what happens if you ever attempt to cross the Rothschilds.
U.S. Congressman Oscar Callaway informs Congress that J. P. Morgan is a Rothschild front and has taken control of the American media industry. He states,

"In March, 1915, the J.P. Morgan interests, the steel, shipbuilding, and powder interest, and their subsidiary organizations, got together 12 men high up in the newspaper world and employed them to select the most influential newspapers in the United States and sufficient number of them to control generally the policy of the daily press... ...They found it was only necessary to purchase the control of 25 of the greatest papers...An agreement was reached. The policy of the papers was bought, to be paid for by the month, an editor was furnished for each paper to properly supervise and edit information regarding the questions of preparedness, militarism, financial policies, and other things of national and international nature considered vital to the interests of the purchasers."

1919: In January, Ashkenazi Jews, Karl Liebknecht and Rosa Luxemburg, are killed as they attempt to lead another Rothschild funded Communist coup, this time in Berlin, Germany. The Versailles peace conference is held to decide reparations that the Germans need to pay to the victors following the end of the first world war. A delegation of 117 Zionists headed up by Ashkenazi Jew, Bernard Baruch, bring up the subject of the promise of Palestine for them. At this point the Germans realised why America had turned on them and under whose influence, the Rothschilds.
The Germans, naturally, felt they had been betrayed by the Zionists. This is because, at the time the Rothschilds made their deal with Britain for Palestine, in exchange for bringing America into the war, Germany was the most friendly country in the world towards the Jews, indeed the German Emancipation Edict of 1822 guaranteed Jews in Germany all civil rights enjoyed by Germans.
Also, Germany was the only country in Europe which did not place restrictions on Jews, even giving them refuge when they had to flee from Russia after their first attempted Communist coup failed there in 1905.
Nevertheless, the Rothschilds had held up their side of the bargain to spill the blood of millions of innocents and as a result, Palestine is confirmed as a Jewish homeland, and whilst its handover to the Rothschilds takes place it is to remain under the control of Britain as the Rothschilds control Britain. At that time less than one percent of the population of Palestine was Jewish. Interestingly, the host of the Versailles peace conference is its boss, Baron Edmond de Rothschild.
The Versailles peace conference is also used as an attempt by the Rothschilds to set up a world government under the pretext of ending all wars (which they create). This was called the, "League of Nations." Fortunately not enough countries accepted it and so it soon died.
On March 29th The Times of London reports on the Bolsheviks in Russia,

"One of the curious features of the Bolshevist movement is the high percentage of non Russian elements among its leaders. Of the twenty or thirty commissaries, or leaders, who provide the central machinery of the Bolshevist movement, not less than 75% were Jews."

It is reported that the Rothschilds were angry with the Russians because they were not prepared to allow them to form a central bank within their nation. They therefore gathered groups of Jewish spies and sent them into Russia to drum up a revolution for the benefit of the common man, which was actually a takeover of Russia by a Rothschild controlled satanic elite. These Jewish spies were, in age old deceptive Ashkenazi tradition, given Russian names, for example Trotsky was a member of the first group and his original name was Bronstein. These groups were sent to areas throughout Russia to incite riots and rebellion.
The Jewish Post International Edition, week ending January 24th 1991, confirms Vladimir Lenin was Jewish. Lenin is also on record as having stated,

“The establishment of a central bank is 90% of communizing a nation.”

These Jewish, Rothschild funded Bolsheviks would go on in the course of history to slaughter 60 million Christians and Non-Jews in Soviet controlled territory. Indeed the author Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn in his work, “Gulag Archipelago, Vol 2,” affirms that Zionist Jews created and administered the organized Soviet concentration camp system in which these tens of millions of Christians and Non-Jews died. On page 79 of this book he even names the administrators of this the greatest killing machine in the history of the world. They are Aron Solts, Yakov Rappoport, Lazar Kogan, Matvei Berman, Genrikh Yagoda, and Naftaly Frenkel. All six are Zionist Jews. In 1970 Solzhenitsyn would be awarded the Nobel Peace Prize for literature.
N. M. Rothschild & Sons’ are given a permanent role to fix the world’s daily gold price. This takes place in the City of London offices, daily at 1100 hours, in the same room until 2004.
1920: Winston Churchill (whose mother, Jenny (Jacobson) Jerome, was Jewish – meaning he is Jewish under Ashkenazi law as he was born of a Jewish mother) writes in an article in the Illustrated Sunday Herald, dated February 8th,

"From the days of Illuminati leader Weishaupt, to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, this worldwide conspiracy has been steadily growing. And now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America, have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

1921: Under the orders of Jacob Schiff the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is founded by Ashkenazi Jews, Bernard Baruch and Colonel Edward Mandell House. Schiff gave his orders prior to his death in 1920, as he knew an organisation in America needed to be set up to select politicians to carry on the Rothschild conspiracy,and the formation of the CFR was actually agreed in a meeting on May 30, 1919 at the Hotel Majestic in Paris, France. The CFR membership at the start was approximately 1000 people in the United States. This membership included the heads of virtually every industrial empire in America, all the American based international bankers, and the heads of all their tax free foundations. In essence all those people who would provide the capital required for anyone who wished to run for Congress, the Senate or the Presidency.
The first job of the CFR was to gain control of the press. This task was given to John D. Rockefeller who set up a number of national news magazines such as Life, and Time. He financed Samuel Newhouse to buy up and establish a chain of newspapers all across the country, and Eugene Meyer also who would go on to buy up many publications such as the Washington Post, Newsweek, ant The Weekly Magazine.
The CFR also needed to gate control of radio, television and the motion picture industry. This task was split amongst the international bankers from, Kuhn Loeb, Goldman Sachs, the Warburgs, and the Lehmanns.
1925: This year's Jewish Encyclopaedia, states of the existence of Ashkenazi Jews (who represent approximately 90% of so-called world Jewry), with the startling admission that the so called enemy of the Jews, Esau (also known as Edom, see Genesis 36:1), now actually represents the Jewish race, when on page 42 of Volume V it is stated,

"Edom is in modern Jewry."

So what they're basically saying is that these Ashkenazi Jews, who represent 90% of the so-called Jewish population, are actually gentiles or goyim themselves. 1926: N. M. Rothschild & Sons refinance the Underground Electric Railways Company of London Ltd which has a controlling interest in the entire London Underground transport system.
Maurice de Rothschild has a son, Edmond de Rothschild.
1929: The Rothschilds crash the United States economy by contracting the money supply.
1930: The first Rothschild world bank, the, "Bank for International Settlements (BIS)," is established in Basle, Switzerland. The same place as where 33 years earlier the first ever World Zionist Congress was held.
1933: On January 30, Adolf Hitler becomes Chancellor of Germany. He drives Jews, many of which were Communist out of Governmental positions within Germany. As a result of this, in July, the Jews hold a World Conference in Amsterdam during which they demand that Hitler re-instate every Jew back to his former position.
Hitler refuses and as a result of this, S

[meskit]

Quem tiver tempo veja este vídeo. Teoria da conspiração, mas muito interessante. Para os que acreditam muito nos dados económicos... como no ano passado que o mercado disparou para cima quando saíram os piores dados sobre o emprego de sempre...



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 6528882906

Saudações e Lucros,
Meskit

[The Mechanic]

ljbk ,

Exactamente e plenamente de acordo contigo .São uma teoria como há muitas outras . São uma ferramenta que cada um poderá utilizar e obter , ou não ,os seus resultados . Tal como o MACD, RSI, Figuras, gráficos , etc. Até aqui, é indiscutivel .

Eu só não gosto do estilo Dogmático com que é apresentado muitas vezes, como se fosse o Santo Graal do Trading ( e nem é o caso do creepy, que até é bastante humilde nesse aspecto ).

E nem acho clara a maneira como os apreciadores das EW aqui demonstram as suas ideias.

Se eu te colocar um gráfico com uma LTA e disser que a cotação pode ir até ali aos 8,20 ... é aquilo. Aconteça ou não! Se lá for aconteceu . Se não for é porque falhou ! As EW , dá a ideia que se chegar aos 8,20...acertam . Se não ,"inicia-se a onda 4" . Se estiver lá perto , afinal é o "a" de 5ª ...!!! ...se passar ,então já é afinal e onda 2 de "A"...?! Eu ainda não consegui entender então pra que serve !! Eu ainda não vi dois de vocês defender a mesma coisa !!! Parece que andam todos à deriva..!

Entendes ?! Não é nada pessoal . Tu vês aqui pessoal a fazer AT a uma acção . São inumeros os casos que um diz : " a Brisa pode chegar aos 7,00 se passar a resistência dos 6,80" ; outro dir-te-á " vejo um canal que poderá levar a Brisa aos 7,10 ..."e outro dir-te-á " buy point nos 7,05 ,"...isto é , tu sabes que há um concenso naquela zona ou cotação .É claro pra todos qual o objectivo ( e nem precisas entender o método ).

As EW tem servido pra justificar "novos minimos" desde há 6 meses atrás e isto só faz é subir .E eu não vejo o pessoal a dizer " afinal , isto não era bem assim...", mas antes " os minimos estão a caminho, só que afinal a onda de 4 é que ainda não chegou, pois afinal era uma "A" da 3 ...!!
Se não há um consenso geral entre os utilizadores de EW , então como esperam convencer os leigos como eu ?!!?

E aí eu coloco as minhas duvidas ou o meu desagrado em relação ao método .

Mas nada pessoal, volto a dizer ...


Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

[The Mechanic]

Não posso ...não consigo ...
A minha ignorância é mais forte .Pra falar a verdade, a minha inteligência mal me dá pra conseguir coordenar as mãos pra levar a comida à boca .Não queiras portanto descer ao meu nível .Não sería inteligente da tua parte .

Quanto a eu ser um gajo porreiro ou não, nem é para aqui chamado . Nem te fica bem numa frase chamares a um gajo "porreiro" e "ignorante " ao mesmo tempo. Estarás a chamá-lo tambem de estupido e isso já era mais chato .


Eu posso maltratar as EW à vontade , sem que tenha de estar a ser julgado no plano pessoal por ti . Se eu não acredito naquilo e se isto é um local de debate publico , nada me impede de me manifestar .E não te estarei a atacar a ti, mas ao teu método .Se é assim tão bom, defende-o com argumento irrefutáveis e eu terei de me calar .
Dito isto, espero que não voltes ao plano pessoal novamente .

um forte abraço pra ti tambem !!!


The Mechanic

[ljbk]

ljbk

Indo para algo mais concreto considerando a teoria das EW, parece-me que o topo desta ultima onda impulsiva já terá sido feito perto dos 1040.
Esta descida até aos 1022 parece-me bem impulsiva, correcto ?
Se assim for a leg que se supõe correctiva que se está a iniciar para cima não deverá ir alem de 0.618 * 17 = aprox. 11 pontos para cima ou seja perto dos 1033 pontos.
Tambem é possivel que ainda se esteja a fazer o 4 mas de qualquer forma o limite nesse caso será sempre inferior aos 1033.
Alguem comenta, sff ?

Concerteza.

O meu comentário é que , um dia destes , as EW acertam mesmo !!!

Depois é a malta do Surf toda : " tajaver !!!??? eu na dizia !?!? ...tava-se mesmo a ver ! hà 6 meses que eu tava a topar isto. A mim na me papam !Só se eu fosse ceguinho !!! "



Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

Caro Mechanic,

Desde que costumo passar por este forum, e já la vai algum tempo, que devo dizer que gosto muito da tua participação sempre cheia de humor.
No entanto, não sei porque é que não gostas nada da EW. São uma teoria com há muitas outras.
Achas que não funcionam. Talvez tenhas razão, mas porque não estudar o caso ?
Há muita gente que utiliza o RSI e os niveis 30 e 70. Eu digo-te que tenho a certeza que isso sozinho não funciona porque é muito facil de testar. Pode funcionar para alguns titulos num Bull Market mas não funciona para todos e muito menos num Bear Market.
Outros utilizam o cruzamento de medias moveis. Mais uma vez eu digo-te que tenho a certeza que isso sozinho não funciona porque é muito facil de testar.
Outros utilizam figuras, LTAs, LTDs, suportes e resistencias. Aqui já é mais dificil de testar porque há subjectividade envolvida: na definição dos valores de suporte e resistencia, no traçar das linhas, nas condições que cada um acha a cada momento necessárias para a quebra dos valores e na avaliação das figuras (um vé uma cunha e outro uma canal e outro sabe-se la o quê).
É esta mesma subjectividade que existe nas EW e aqui aparentemente ninguem a quer tolerar. Porque não tambem avaliar esta ferramenta que já deu bons resultados no passado recente. Ainda me lembro de niguem querer acreditar no BullPower no inicio do Bear Market.

Um abraço,
ljbk.

[creepy]

ljbk

Indo para algo mais concreto considerando a teoria das EW, parece-me que o topo desta ultima onda impulsiva já terá sido feito perto dos 1040.
Esta descida até aos 1022 parece-me bem impulsiva, correcto ?
Se assim for a leg que se supõe correctiva que se está a iniciar para cima não deverá ir alem de 0.618 * 17 = aprox. 11 pontos para cima ou seja perto dos 1033 pontos.
Tambem é possivel que ainda se esteja a fazer o 4 mas de qualquer forma o limite nesse caso será sempre inferior aos 1033.
Alguem comenta, sff ?

Concerteza.

O meu comentário é que , um dia destes , as EW acertam mesmo !!!

Depois é a malta do Surf toda : " tajaver !!!??? eu na dizia !?!? ...tava-se mesmo a ver ! hà 6 meses que eu tava a topar isto. A mim na me papam !Só se eu fosse ceguinho !!! "



Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

não deixes que a tua ignorância seja mais forte que a tua inteligência...

e tu es um gajo porreiro.. portanto aproveita..

forte abraço

[The Mechanic]

ljbk

Indo para algo mais concreto considerando a teoria das EW, parece-me que o topo desta ultima onda impulsiva já terá sido feito perto dos 1040.
Esta descida até aos 1022 parece-me bem impulsiva, correcto ?
Se assim for a leg que se supõe correctiva que se está a iniciar para cima não deverá ir alem de 0.618 * 17 = aprox. 11 pontos para cima ou seja perto dos 1033 pontos.
Tambem é possivel que ainda se esteja a fazer o 4 mas de qualquer forma o limite nesse caso será sempre inferior aos 1033.
Alguem comenta, sff ?

Concerteza.

O meu comentário é que , um dia destes , as EW acertam mesmo !!!

Depois é a malta do Surf toda : " tajaver !!!??? eu na dizia !?!? ...tava-se mesmo a ver ! hà 6 meses que eu tava a topar isto. A mim na me papam !Só se eu fosse ceguinho !!! "



Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

[creepy]

Boa tarde,

Indo para algo mais concreto considerando a teoria das EW, parece-me que o topo desta ultima onda impulsiva já terá sido feito perto dos 1040.
Esta descida até aos 1022 parece-me bem impulsiva, correcto ?
Se assim for a leg que se supõe correctiva que se está a iniciar para cima não deverá ir alem de 0.618 * 17 = aprox. 11 pontos para cima ou seja perto dos 1033 pontos.
Tambem é possivel que ainda se esteja a fazer o 4 mas de qualquer forma o limite nesse caso será sempre inferior aos 1033.
Alguem comenta, sff ?

BN,
ljbk.

tou com alguma dificuldade na contagem...

aliviei nos 1023 que era onde tinha o suporte a vermelho (no gráfico ontem)... comecei a colocar agora devagar...

não está nada decidido...

mas o meu canal de longo prazo parece que ta lá ou quase... a corresponder...

se for onda 1 realmente... e outra vez digo que não tenho certeza... são sempre complicadas...

deixa.me fazer umas contas..

abraço

[Silverwolf]

Mais uma boa noticia:
•Consumer Spending in U.S. Climbed in July on `Cash for Clunkers' Program

E mais uma vez o mercado vira para vermelho... Existe claramente uma pressão vendedora forte, não sei se serão apenas mais valias, se serão já posicionamentos estratégicos para o que poderá estar para vir...

mas que se sai uma má noticia da economia... ui.

[ljbk]

Boa tarde,

Indo para algo mais concreto considerando a teoria das EW, parece-me que o topo desta ultima onda impulsiva já terá sido feito perto dos 1040.
Esta descida até aos 1022 parece-me bem impulsiva, correcto ?
Se assim for a leg que se supõe correctiva que se está a iniciar para cima não deverá ir alem de 0.618 * 17 = aprox. 11 pontos para cima ou seja perto dos 1033 pontos.
Tambem é possivel que ainda se esteja a fazer o 4 mas de qualquer forma o limite nesse caso será sempre inferior aos 1033.
Alguem comenta, sff ?

BN,
ljbk.

[The Mechanic]

creepy

ver canal pagina 64...

podes fugir... podes

podes te esconder... não

cumprimentos

Porra creepy ; desde há uns dias pra cá, pareces o jotabilo a escrever .

...assim...
dizes uma coisa...uns pontinhos...e depois outra.
e...no fim...ninguem entende ...
...o que tás a dizer...como o jotabilo...
( agora é que o jotabilo se passa comigo..! )


Parece que tás cansado. Não te deixes abater pelas vozes detractoras à tua opinião , homem . Eu posso não concordar contigo, mas acho que se clarificares melhor isso das EW , até pode ser interessante para muita gente .E sempre é mais um ponto de vista ( eu só desatino é quando vocês começam a parecer Dogmáticos sobre a vossa opinião ).

...e deixo-vos... a vós outros ...o gráfico da pag.5 ...deste tópico...por ex. ...


Um abraço ,

The Mechanic

[creepy]

ver canal pagina 64...

podes fugir... podes

podes te esconder... não

cumprimentos

[bestbland]

Em dia de abertura como este pode significar duas coisas. Se for depois de uma correção significa fortes valorizações. Se for após valorizações significa que podemos vir assistir uma correcçao. No contexto bull

[Trisquel]

Viva, este depósito a prazo fazia parte de uma campanha promocional que tinha como intenção a angariação de mais capital por parte do banco,e como é normal são oferecidas taxas superiores ao praticado em geral pelo mercado. Contudo, deve-se notar que só podia ser aplicado dinheiro depositado após 22 Julho e que a aplicação estava limitada a 100.000 € por agregado familiar. Em relação ao valor oferecido, 3,7 % é o valor médio da taxa da aplicação que tem uma duração de 5 anos, sendo a taxa média dos primeiros 2 anos de 3,25%. em que o último ano tem um valor de 4,90% de maneira a reforçar a média (muita atenção a olhar para as médias.) Se não tiver o dinheiro aplicado durante os 5 anos não vai obter esse valor.

Quanto a afirmação do seu gestor de conta que as taxas de juro iam subir, é razoável pensar isso para um prazo de 5 anos. Espero bem que subam, era sinal que a recessão tinha acabado e que que os ciclos económicos / bolsisticos continuavam a funcionar.

Mas também é importante perceber que ele quer é vender-lhe um produto e qualquer justificação serve.

Cumprimentos,
Hugo

Esta foi a segunda fase do produto, porque a primeira fase é de 3,7% do 1º ao 5º ano !!!!!!!!

[JCS]

O que é que eles ganham com o meu dinheiro?
Se não for para ganhar na subida dos mercados é para ganhar a shortar?

O teu dinheiro pode servir para o banco investir nos mercados ou para emprestar a outros clientes a taxas muito superiores (cartões de crédito, leasings, créditos pessoais, férias, etc) onde cobram na maioria das vezes taxas bem acima dos 10%.

Na prática o banco "pede-te emprestado a ti" a 3,70%, para depois emprestar cobrando 12%, 17% e 22% etc...

Cumprimentos

JCS