Re: BREXIT - O Referendo britânico.
Enviado: 14/4/2017 14:19
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Flavc Escreveu:Não sei se o que vou dizer já foi dito aqui nesta posta do Brexit , mas de qq modo vou repetir. Um decisão tão importante para o futuro do " Reino Unido" a ser decidida em referendo teria que ser por uma margem superior de quem ganhasse (pelo menos 66% dos votantes) e com uma forte participação. Mas ta feito tá feito. Adiante.
A UE mesmo que não o diga ( nem todos os políticos são estúpidos com o Djilselbon, lol), vai dificultar o máximo o processo de divórcio e (não o dizendo) ficará contente se as coisas correrem mal, como estão de facto a correr, para o reino de sua majestade. Já dizia o meu avô, que se deve prestar atenção aos bons e aos maus exemplos. Uns para serem seguidos outros para serem evitados . Infelizmente tb muitos estrangeiros residentes e a trabalhar no RU (incluindo muitos portugueses) estão com um futuro incerto e irão apanhar por tabela, com as decisões que vierem a ser tomadas.
acintra Escreveu:Os políticos que temos na UE e em UK são muito fracos e para alem disso ninguém vai falar em uníssono.
May Defeated Again in U.K. Parliament on Brexit-Trigger Law
by Tim Ross and Alex Morales
7 de março de 2017, 18:38 WET 7 de março de 2017, 19:27 WET
U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May suffered a fresh blow to her plan to trigger the start of Brexit talks after upper-house lawmakers demanded the power to reject the final deal she reaches with the European Union.
The House of Lords in London voted by 366 to 268 on Tuesday in favor of changing May’s draft Brexit law to give Parliament the ability to send her back to the negotiating table if legislators decide the terms of the U.K.’s exit agreement aren’t good enough.
Brexit Secretary David Davis said ministers will seek to overturn the Lords’ amendment when the bill goes back to the House of Commons, expected to be next week.
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Rebels in May’s Conservative Party joined forces with opposition Labour and Liberal Democrat members of the unelected upper chamber to defeat the government. It is the second time they’ve defied the premier on amendments to the bill giving her power to formally notify the EU that Britain is leaving the bloc. Another change to the wording, passed last week, aims to protect the rights of EU citizens living in Britain.
Last year’s referendum vote to leave the EU was an instruction to government ministers to negotiate exit on the best terms they can get, not to leave “whatever the cost,” former Tory minister Douglas Hogg told lawmakers during Tuesday’s debate. “This country’s future should rest with Parliament and not with ministers.”
Dianne Hayter, speaking for the opposition Labour Party, said that without the amendment, it would be mandatory for the EU Parliament to give its consent to the eventual Brexit deal, but not for the British legislature.
‘Wheels On’
“It’s about authorizing Parliament,” Hayter said. “It’s to put wheels on the outcome of the referendum.”
May’s team argued the amendment would weaken her in negotiations and immediately announced they will try to delete the amendments when the bill returns to the Commons for further consideration. In an emailed statement after the vote, Davis said the result was “disappointing” and pledged to reverse it.
The bill has “a straightforward purpose -- to enact the referendum result and allow the government to get on with negotiating a new partnership with the EU,” Davis said. “It is clear that some in the Lords would seek to frustrate that process, and it is the government’s intention to ensure that does not happen. We will now aim to overturn these amendments in the House of Commons.”
Trigger Date
The prime minister wants to open Brexit talks by the end of this month by formally invoking Article 50 of the bloc’s Lisbon Treaty. May hasn’t named a date for making the move and there are conflicting reports on when she might pull the trigger, ranging from March 15 to March 31.
Tuesday’s amendment would guarantee Parliament a veto over the final Brexit agreement, as well as the power to stop May walking away from talks without a deal, something she’s threatened to do if she doesn’t like the EU’s offer.
May wants the 137-word draft to go through Parliament without changes to give her the maximum freedom to negotiate with EU leaders. Her spokesman, James Slack, told reporters on Tuesday that the premier is “absolutely” on course to trigger Brexit negotiations by the end of March.
Brexit Minister George Bridges suggested the amendment could be used by some opponents of Brexit to try to keep Britain in the EU. “This amendment simply makes the negotiations much harder from day one for the prime minister,” he told the House of Lords before the vote. “It increases the incentive for the European Union to offer nothing but a bad deal.”
U.K.'s May Loses Brexit Vote on Law to Protect EU Nationals
by Tim Ross , Alex Morales , and Thomas Penny
1 de março de 2017, 18:47 WET
Labour, Lib Dems back European migrants’ right to stay in U.K.
May expected to ask House of Commons to overturn Lords result
U.K. Prime Minister Theresa May suffered her first parliamentary defeat on her draft law to begin the withdrawal from the European Union after the House of Lords rebuffed a government plea to leave the Brexit bill intact.
The U.K.’s unelected upper house voted by 358 votes to 256 in favor of an amendment that protects the right of EU nationals to remain living in Britain when the country leaves the bloc.
Securing the legal status of European employees living and working in the U.K. is a critical priority for businesses that could face potential labor shortages. The government defeat is a blow to May’s authority on Brexit, and complicates her timetable for launching negotiations, but she’s expected to fight to overturn the result with a fresh vote in the House of Commons within days.
While the premier has repeatedly said she wants to guarantee the rights of more than 3 million EU citizens in the U.K., she says she must at the same time receive reciprocal guarantees for Britons abroad. Critics say May is using people’s lives as negotiating capital.
“It’s not even a very good bargaining chip,” said Bob Kerslake, who was the head of the U.K. Civil Service. “We need them to stay as much if not more than they wish to do so.”
Labor Supply
May is also putting at risk the supply of workers for key industries in the U.K. that depend on EU citizens, said Dianne Hayter, the main opposition Labour Party’s Brexit spokeswoman.
May’s team was prepared for defeat because her Conservative Party does not have a majority in the upper house, and Labour and Liberal Democrat legislators joined forces to support the amendment.
May is seeking a speedy parliamentary approval for the bill, which gives her the power to trigger the start of Brexit under Article 50 of the EU treaty by her own deadline of March 31. Once Article 50 is invoked, formal Brexit talks begin and Britain will be on the legal path out of the EU.
Dick Newby, leader of the Liberal Democrats in the Lords, said he expects three more amendments to be voted on next week, covering Northern Ireland, a second referendum and providing for a “substantive” vote in Parliament on May’s eventual Brexit deal.
To avoid the bill being bounced back and forth between the chambers, a process known as ping pong, May could accept defeat and agree to give the unilateral guarantee to EU migrants. Newby suggested the Lords may not have the appetite to fight over the issue if the Commons rejects the amendments.
https://www.noticiasaominuto.com/mundo/730209/theresa-may-ja-tem-autorizacao-para-acionar-processo-de-saida-da-ue Escreveu:O Governo britânico publicou hoje o projeto de lei que irá autorizar a primeira-ministra britânica, Theresa May, a acionar o processo da saída do Reino Unido da União Europeia (UE), dossiê conhecido como 'Brexit'.
"O povo britânico tomou a decisão de deixar a UE (...) por isso apresentamos hoje um projeto de lei no Parlamento que irá permitir-nos lançar formalmente o artigo 50.º [do Tratado de Lisboa) até ao final de março", disse o ministro responsável pelas negociações da saída do Reino Unido, David Davis.
PUB
O projeto de lei será apresentado às duas câmaras do Parlamento britânico -- Câmara dos Comuns e Câmara dos Lordes -- antes de receber o consentimento real antes da data limite de 31 de março, segundo referiu o ministério responsável pelo processo num comunicado.
O executivo publicou o projeto de lei pouco tempo depois do anúncio de que os parlamentares terão cinco dias para debater e avaliar o texto que irá acionar a partida britânica do bloco europeu, indicou o jornal britânico The Guardian.
De acordo com o jornal britânico, o projeto de lei contém apenas duas cláusulas e 137 palavras.
O diploma foi elaborado depois da deliberação de terça-feira do Supremo Tribunal do Reino Unido, que obrigou o Governo britânico a ter a aprovação do parlamento para iniciar os procedimentos de saída da União Europeia, decisão que foi considerada como uma derrota política para Theresa May.
O Governo liderado pela conservadora Theresa May defende a competência exclusiva do executivo de Londres, mas essa posição foi contestada por cidadãos que argumentaram que "passar por cima" da Câmara dos Comuns colocava em causa direitos constitucionais.
O artigo 50.º, que nunca foi acionado antes, dá início ao processo formal de negociações de saída da UE, escolhida por 52% dos britânicos no referendo de 23 de junho de 2016.
Lion_Heart Escreveu:A Europa ou se decide por os por na rua de vez ou então ela própria que acabe!
JohnyRobaz Escreveu:
Mas o maior partido da oposição não disse já que não votará contra o brexit?
Raposo Tavares Escreveu:O Supremo Tribunal britanico deliberou que cabe ao Parlamento ativar o artº 50. Li distraidamente e na diagonal, mas parece-me que vem forte bernarda por aí...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... urt-ruling
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... article-50
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... itics-live
Raposo Tavares Escreveu:Marco Martins Escreveu:(...)May is expected to start an initial two-year negotiating period with the EU by the end of March(..)
2 anos?!?!
2 anos até pode ser uma previsão otimista. Os Valões podem não gostar de alguma coisinha, os húngaros podem fazer uma chantagenzeca para não receberem sírios regressados do RU, os romenos podem recusar os ciganos de volta, os franciús podem achar que o Inglês não faz sentido como língua dos tratados nem como língua da Europa, os austríacos podem querer impedir a entrada de cadburys na terra dos Imperadores do Sacro Império Romano Germânico... Sabe-se lá.
Então e nós com as pescas? Se os bifes, isto é uma suposição, se fazem parvos com os nossos sargos do dia, ou com o atum de sushi?
Ahhh, pois.
Isto o mundo, pá, está muita maluko...
Um abraço,
Raposo Tavares
Marco Martins Escreveu:(...)May is expected to start an initial two-year negotiating period with the EU by the end of March(..)
2 anos?!?!